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  1. Posted

    2 hours ago, Cameron H. said:

     

    Although, I think my son’s favorite early Disney movies would be either Pinocchio (which I hate) and 101 Dalmatians (which I’m not sure counts as “early” Disney).

    Pinocchio is trash! I recently watched this while snowed-in in Wisconsin. I had no idea what horrible, racist, awful nonsense that movie was! I don't even think I really liked it as a kid. It wasn't one we kept around the house.

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  2. Posted

    5 hours ago, AlmostAGhost said:

    I'm hoping she goes cynical about Snow White tomorrow

     

    3 hours ago, taylorannephoto said:

    If she doesn't then I'll be right here on the boards to do it for her lol. I have some thoughts.

    I haven't seen this since I was a girl. I'm pretty sure there was a screening of it near me when I was a little girl, and this is the first movie I remember seeing in the theater, and I remember having a Snow White phase. I'm curious what both Amy and Paul have to say about what parts of the film, if any, hold up, and what, if anything, fresh can be said about it as seen through a modern lens.

    Is it worth re-watching? 

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  3. Posted

    On 3/29/2019 at 10:37 PM, Cam Bert said:

    I'm curious with how many people are in line with Amy in thinking that she rejects him at the end. Maybe I am a hopeless romantic or something but I thought it was 100% clear that she accepts him for who he is. I think she does the mental math a bit in that moment as well. He's poor and penniless now, but he gave her a lot of money before going away for awhile. She might not have all the facts right, but she understands that whether he was rich or not before he gave up everything he had for her with no expectation of anything in return other than her happiness. Her pulling his hand in closer to her chest says it all. Again, the brilliance of little actions telling a story rather than words.

    So I think Amy's interpretation of the ending is completely at odds with what the movie has to say. Here's this Tramp who has nothing, sleeping on a statute, and he happens upon a wealthy man who seemingly has everything to live for, but is really a suicidal alcoholic. In my interpretation, the Tramp sees the pain the rich man is in, and sees him as a person (not just some wealthy schmuck), and it's that humanity that forges their unlikely friendship. And of course, the flower girl is blind, and only thinks the Tramp is rich because she hears the car door when they first meet, and he takes her around in the car, but when she goes home to her grandmother she says he's rich, but he's "so much more" than that. Despite being blind, she gets to know him as he really is. Then, after he's worked to get her sight back, and she sees him for the first time, I interpret her reaction to understand that his gift to her meant so much more because he was poor and, though he could have used that money for himself, he used it to get her sight. And then when she ends with something like, "yes, I can see now" she sees not just his appearance, but who he is as a man, as a person, as someone who loves her and cares for her, when it seems no one but her Grandmother even gave her a second look. So if she rejects him because she sees him, it ruins the whole point of the plot. 

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  8. Posted

    22 hours ago, RyanSz said:

    There are some small things that I had pointed out to me through a few different videos, like from the guy who made the video I posted. Things like Adelaide 2 was a devout vegetarian, because she no longer wanted to eat meat after eating only raw rabbit, the fact that she tells Jason to listen to the beat of "I Got 5 On It" and starts snapping but she's off key, showing that she isn't fully untethered, and her fighting style is more in line with the other tethers and measured while her family are pretty much getting lucky shots in and fighting with little skill.

    She also looks pretty fucking evil when she kills the second twin? 

    Also, are the Tethers  who are not Red unable to kill Adelaide (the who's dressed in white that turns nearly red with blood by the end)? There's a moment when Tether Kitty holds her scissors right in Adelaide's face and trembles and runs away. That made me think she wanted to kill Adelaide but couldn't because, of course, Adelaide is one of them. 

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  9. Posted

    22 hours ago, Cinco DeNio said:

    Hey all.  I apologize for putting you through a stinker of a movie.  I wasn't able to contribute much myself this week.  I have decided to let my medical issues win for now.  I am going to take a break from the forums, both main podcast and MM, for a month or so.  By the end of April I will have a much better picture of where I am at health-wise and the steps needed for the road back.  I can't tell you how grateful I am for all of you, especially @Cameron H. for his friendship and advising me in many areas, and @taylorannephoto for challenging me when I needed an adjustment.  I hope to be back at that point.  I have one more pick to make if someone doesn't do it first.  Don't hold back from picking it if you want to do it.  We need to complete the Alan Parker trilogy.

    Thanks again all of you.  I am very grateful.

    Mark "Cinco" DeNio

    Yes, health first! The boards are always here. 

    I actually enjoyed watching this for once, even with its flaws. Thanks for hosting, and bringing your perspective to it!

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  10. Posted

    4 hours ago, taylorannephoto said:

    In my opinion I think that scene where she breaks out of the Supreme Intelligence was an unspoken way of her presenting who she is, because she's also become more quippy and way more full of sass. So for me at the end if she had said that I think it would've just been too on the nose and felt too orchestrated by writers. Cause I think this whole time that's exactly what Jude Law was wanting from her, she was supposed to prove herself worthy to him over and over and was deemed too emotional each time. From a female perspective that all rang sooo true and I believe the point is that emotional reactions are also conscious decisions but when a woman does them they are seen as emotional and wrong. No matter what Carol said in that moment it was her decision to end that at that moment because she wasn't going to fight by his ridiculous rules anymore. He was scared of her true power plain and simple and wanted to show that in a fist fight she wouldn't win against him. Once again he wanted her to prove that she was actually strong.

    It was a perfect moment.

    I also think that had Carol said, "this is who I am" she's still conceding that she seeks or desires his approval or agrees to playing by his rules. By saying she has nothing to prove to him, she's saying his opinion doesn't matter at all. It's the more "fuck the patriarchy" move, and I'm for it. 

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  11. Posted

    The second Jason twist was something my friend picked up on her viewing, but I missed on both my viewings, but I'm convinced. Also, I now think that Adelaide's mom knew about the experiment, and maybe knew that the tethered daughter came out of the fun house because she said to the therapist, "I just want my little girl back." 

  12. Posted

    I'm going to go on record saying this movie was more feminist than Wonder Woman. LOOOOOOVED it and have seen it twice in the theatre. I . might go a third time. 

    I"m only just coming around to the MCU. This was just so, so great. I am planning on seeing Avengers: End Game just to see Brie Larson's Captain Marvel. Love her. 

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  13. Posted

    1 hour ago, taylorannephoto said:

    I think she knew as well, which definitely makes the exposition seem way more clunky because she keeps asking "What do you want" and Red!Adelaide seems to mainly be explaining this all to her specifically, because she continuously ignores Gabe and Zora speaking. But now knowing what we know that seems absolutely pointless.

    The only thing I could otherwise think of was that she suppressed the experience and grew up learning to fit in. 

  14. Posted

    I just watched this for the second time yesterday and I still also have questions! In Red's monologue, I think she said that she (Red) understood that humans were experimenting and found a way to copy the body but not the soul (hence the tethers) and the idea was that they were going to use those underground to control things above ground, but that the experiment went awry and was abandoned. The tethered, then were left "for generations" and just fended for themselves down there, I guess? 

    I don't think that everyone had tethers, but they had reproduced enough to apparently do a Hands Across America redo. Red says that she and Adelaide were born special, and they were brought together by God the night of the switch. Do you think young Red was able to control young Adelaide, and that's how she affected the switch in the hall of mirrors? Then she would obviously still control her from underground, but new/adult Red had the soul and was able to lead the others into an uprising, because she would be the only one who knew of the upper world, and of course Hands Across America. (new question, how does she lead an uprising if she's tethered?).

    Also, I'm still not sure what actually happened with the dance they talked about? There seemed to have been some big miraculous Godly intervention, but it wasn't clear to me what it was. 

    Last question (for now) - Did adult Adelaide know she was from the underground the whole movie? I think she did, and it made the second watch more interesting.

    Lupita's performance is just absolutely beyond. She's terrifying as Red. This whole thing was gold! But yes, QUESTIONS! 

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  15. Posted

    10 hours ago, gigi-tastic said:

    Troop Beverly Hills is a THANK GOD this got made film.  7 year old me straight up refused to return to Girl Scouts because it was not enough like TBH. Nary a Fashion show or Freddie dance break to be found. Also we were too young to sell cookies and I was all about getting access to those Thin Mints ( I still am and all my friends children know this. )

    This is my favorite Shelly Long movie.  A close second is Don't Tell Her its Me/The Boyfriend School. 

  17. Posted

    14 hours ago, Cinco DeNio said:

    Was that a crazy mind screwer!  It was different than I expected based on the trailer but no less insane.  I also thought sure the dad was the "friend" from Get Out.  Sounded just like him to me.  Nope.

    The dad was so great. He had these few expressions that just melted me. I loved him! 

  18. Posted

    On 3/24/2019 at 12:31 PM, Cameron H. said:

    Here’s a question we haven’t asked in a long awhile: what are the top five movies you hope HDTGM will cover in the future? I think they’ve done a bunch of mine, so I’ll have to think about it myself...

    (Taylor’s not allowed to say Queen of the Damned :P )

    Also, how have they not done Red Dawn yet? 

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  19. Posted

    6 minutes ago, Cameron H. said:

    Good picks! The didn’t do Highlander, but the did do Highlander 2. Check it out if you can! I remember it being really good ;) 

    Yes! That's why I was thinking they did Highlander. I never got around to watching the second and couldn't make it through the first. 

    Fun Fact: The Apple is now streaming on Amazon Prime. 

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  20. Posted

    On 3/22/2019 at 10:48 PM, RyanSz said:

    And speaking of Jordan Peele, if you haven't seen Us yet, do so because it is FUCKING AMAZING.

     

    I am so anxious to see Us for the second time! There was so much I missed the first time, and the second viewing will be like seeing the negative of a print. 

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  21. Posted

    On 3/24/2019 at 12:31 PM, Cameron H. said:

    Here’s a question we haven’t asked in a long awhile: what are the top five movies you hope HDTGM will cover in the future? I think they’ve done a bunch of mine, so I’ll have to think about it myself...

    (Taylor’s not allowed to say Queen of the Damned :P )

    So many choices!! I also vote for Rockula. That was just... beyond. It seems to so perfectly fit the HDTGM brand! Others, I think, I'd also agree with Ladyhawk. They haven't done Highlander, have they? I don't think I've seen that in their archives.

    Also:

    Troop Beverly Hills

    Space Camp

    Center Stage 

    Serenity

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  23. Posted

    2 hours ago, AlmostAGhost said:

    I wasn't in the mood to watch this this weekend but hopefully will sometime soon. (Blame Unspooled and West Side Story, I wasn't ready for another 2.5 hour musical.) 

    But I do have a Chitty Chitty Bang Bang memory from as a kid. At some point, we rented it from the video store, I'm guessing like age 8-10 or so. My parents were going somewhere and the neighbor kid (maybe he was like 15-16) down the street was coming over to babysit. I distinctly remember him bringing Neverending Story to watch with us, and he was very much like 'why in the world would we watch Chitty Chitty Bang Bang?' like it was the uncoolest thing possible. But I feel like this may have been one of the first times where I learned something isn't cool and Chitty has always been in that 'not hip' category for me ever since haha.

    I don't remember what we ended up watching that day, but I do know I saw Chitty a few times back then (though I don't remember very much about it 30+ years later).

     

    I actually have a similar history with The King and I. The only time I ever watched that was when I was at a house with some girls from school whose parents only allowed them to watch G rated movies. It was the first time I remember being bored by a movie and that not all movies were "cool" because it was way cooler to be able to watch PG or (gasp) PG-13 movies. 

    I agree with the consensus that Chitty is too long. If I were to watch it again I would skip through the songs, except maybe for the one where they're dressed as toys. 

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  24. Posted

    41 minutes ago, Cameron H. said:

    You’ve got to give it to a movie that’s framed as a story being told by one of the characters about the themselves and the other characters - one of whom they just met the day before. I just love the idea of DvD being like, “And after I dropped Truly off at her house, she sang a whole song about how much she wanted me. It went like this...But of course, this is before I entrusted her with my children’s safety and she allowed them get kidnapped.”

    To be honest, by the time the car turned into a boat, I had forgotten the framing device that DVD was just telling this story to everyone.

    Also, yes, I just about lost my shit when Truly looks at the two kids in the land where kids are hated and is all, "you kids stay here while I find food. It's all fine. you can watch each other. nothing bad will happen." What?! 

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  25. Posted

    4 hours ago, Cameron H. said:

    Yeah, R&J is just a mess of co-dependence. I’ve never really taken them to be “in love” either. Not only was Romeo hung up on Rosalind, but Juliet is being forced to marry the much older Paris. Juliet serves as a rebound for Romeo, and Romeo is an “out” for Juliet. Like, I think they were attracted to each other, but the only way their love would actually be “eternal” is through death. I always quietly chuckle when people hold R&J up as romantic ideals. Like I said previously, I think it’s more about squandered youth - dying young - over something stupid (i.e. a family feud, a gang rivalry)

    I think WSS sells Tony and Maria’s love a little better, to be honest. Sure, they’re being a bit naive, but I think that’s okay when you are first falling in love. Cutting out the Rosalind character also helps sell the audience on Tony’s feelings for Maria; and Chino never really feels like as much of an issue for Maria as Paris does for Juliet.

    I have the same interpretation of R+J as just some hormonally charged, melodramatic teenagers, and not love at first sight (not that I think such a thing exists). I agree that WSS has a more believable love story. They meet at the dance, and then just make plans to meet at her shop, not to get married. Sure, they have the symbolic wedding, but I took that as just youthful playfulness confessing their feelings for each other, but I never understood it that they were already ready to live together and make babies. 

    Here's a question - does Maria forgive Anita for lying to Doc and Tony that Maria was dead? What happens with their relationship?

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