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    Tokyo Story

    Since you went in not having a feel for why it's so acclaimed (or at least, not feeling it), I am curious if you took anything away from the episode on that front. Discussions can sound very different when coming from a very different angle (I've seen the movie multiple times and it's grown on me each time. But it also started out fairly well with me on the first viewing - but also unburdened by my ignorance of any list ranking at the time).
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    Tokyo Story

    Paul not knowing of this film is just a reminder to me they did the wrong list for season 1. Sidenote, when Amy said, "they got all these directors together and they agreed that Tokyo Story was the best movie of all time," a more fair characterization is, in their most recent poll in 2012, that they do every decade (since 1952), in which they split out the directors from the critics since, I believe the 1992 poll, Tokyo Story received the most number of votes amongst directors, becoming the top film. It's worth noting the top 7 of the critic's poll were Vertigo, Kane, Tokyo Story, The Rules of the Game, Sunrise, 2001, and The Searchers. So it's not like it's acclaim is unique to directors. I only take the time to type that out, because I remember seeing a lot of misconceptions about how these polls/lists at the beginning of season one. For the John Hughes connection, maybe because Home Alone is in this set, and I haven't seen Ohayo or "I was Born, But...", but vaguely knowing the premise of them, those were the ones I thought of. One thing I noticed this time around with Tokyo Story is that the way it ends is possibly setting up the premise of Late Spring at the end. A daughter who seems devoted to her widowed father, living with him. And there's a lingering question of when she'll eventually marry and move out (with the concern of who will look after him). A potential nice circular touch to the Noriko trilogy (though I was always unclear if Ozu intended it to be a thematic trilogy or if that's something we've attached afterwards. All those films that are early/mid/late season-name kind of confuses things in my mind.) And I'm surprised they never used the term minimalism in describing it since that seemed to be the term Paul was reaching for. Something also relevant in Joan of Arc. Granted, I always think the power of minimalism comes from the contrast of everything else and in a cultural vacuum doesn't work quite as well (but no culture is ever truly in a vacuum, except in an archeological dig, maybe). I will say, the didaticticism at the end always moves me, which is not what didaticticism usually does. Hey, yeah, we just showed you adult children that seem self-absorbed and neglectful of their parents, but I'm addressing you, the audience directly, don't judge them too harshly. It's what we all do. We all have their own lives. And it does recenter you to think about the shortcomings of the parents as well. Just an overall great movie by not trying to be too much (this isn't The Ballad of Narayana).
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    #Kinspooled miniseries #3

    While a lot of these movies are centered around family dynamics and drama, a lot (most) of these don't strike me as "fucked up families." (The choices in the letterboxd list matches up with the title a lot more). Seeing Tokyo Story described that way is really jarring for me.
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    Ganja & Hess

    In terms of influencing other movies, the example that springs to my mind is Guillermo del Toro's early vampire movie, Drinks, which also does an "addict licks the blood off the bathroom floor" scene. Mentioning it since I don't think I heard that one mentioned. Fwiw.
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    Unghouled Suggestions

    It's not an uncommon misconception that Hausu is a bad film. But if you look at it, it is very stylishly bold in a way many other films fail to match, and it's knowingly campy and comic. It's basically Evil Dead 2 but with the mindset and tone coming from a 15 year old girl doing more of a straight comedy, than a 16 year old boy basically doing a comedy. (Both of which are very different than a Tobe Hooper doing a comedy...) ETA: The Hausu being HDTGM material because it's so nuts is legit though. But if you look at it, I'd say if Evil Dead 2 wasn't as cultural well known, it would also be HDTGM material because of its crazy factor (which is an order of magnitude less crazy than Hausu - which is probably my favorite horror comedy). ETAA: the poll question asked which movie would be the most interesting episode, not the movie I would put on a best-of list. I mean, in that case, Hausu....
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    Unghouled Suggestions

    Here's about a thousand suggestions. http://theyshootzombies.com/ghf1000/1-100/ My recollection for BFI overlap (between 100-200) is The Shining, Don't Look Now, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. ETA: Videodrome was also 202 in the critics' poll. I kind of don't feel like making a single suggestion, because while I want to point my finger at the '78 version of Bodysnatchers or Possession. But that's hard to do, when obvious biggies like The Shining and The Exorcist, technically haven't been included or really considered yet.
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    I thought someone else here had also watched the documentary Horror Noire last year. Ganja & Hess was obviously mentioned in that (and Spike Lee did a remake of it a few years ago). I'm not saying it's necessarily a well known movie, but I thought the things that cause it to be actually "heard of" had permeated in here.
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    It's been a year or so since I've seen it, but was meaning to rewatch this month. My recollection is it's a little rough/incomplete (due to the rushed shooting time) and surreal. I suspect it's not going to be your thing. Not saying you won't surprise me, but that is where my suspicions lie. ETA: I do like it based on my memory, both of those attributes disproportionately appeal to me.
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    I don't know what you took as a shrug to Mean Girls (though possibly I don't know what you mean by "shrug"). I took the "reconsideration" of Mean Girls to be used the same way as Amy does with Clueless and the back to school genre as a whole - doesn't get a lot of critical acclaim (well, critically well received/enjoyed, but not critically valued as high art or what-have-you), maybe we should reconsider that/etc. Listing The 400 Blows next to it gives the impression that it needs reconsideration the same way. And generally speaking, I don't think The 400 Blows is in want of critical respect (in terms of best of lists). Like, I'm wasn't arguing the movie selection, just your choice of phrasing because it made what you were trying to convey unclear and confusing to me.
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    This does lead into the point of a framing where this shift of structure does make sense, and is not entirely unwelcomed. So, from one angle, I have felt that framing the movies as whether they belong on some list often distracts from talking about the movie itself. Another aspect is a point someone brought up during The Searchers, which is, one downside of lists like these is it sometimes makes it seem like what some of these movies were doing was singular. The phrase, I believe they said was, there was a series of "semi-woke westerns" made around that era, including a few from John Ford. So, picking a few movies at a time that are affected by or are even directly in conversation with each other does seem like a useful framing to get "perspective" of where something might belong. There's at least two ways to go about that, either vaguely similar movies over decades to see how things change from time to time or a number from a similar point of time to break down differences and similarities of what people were concerned with at that point. This list looks more like the former. At the moment, I don't have a strong opinion on that. And then the last component, let's say they should do another list that includes more international films - they just spent 2 years going through one list. That can feel a bit much as a project to do again. If they were to do something like the Sight & Sound poll/list, they've already done 26 of the movies from doing the AFI list. As they do these smaller groupings, if they work some movies from such a list, which would be expected, (such as The 400 Blows), then when they do get to doing a list again, the number of films on that list are reduced, so less of a commitment. Granted, as they do start to vary on some of these themes, I would expect I might feel even less of a need to follow every single movie than what I was already currently failing to do. Just my initial 2 cents.
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    It would be funny if at some point they listed Breathless, but meant the American remake with Richard Gere though.
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    "Re-consideration" for The 400 Blows? Um, that is Truffaut's debut film and one of the movies that kicked off the French New Wave. And on the BFI Sight & Sound polls, for the 2012, it landed at 39 on the critic's poll and 13th on the director's poll (people give more credence to the critic's poll). It's generally pretty well acclaimed (and yes, there's at least one Simpson's clip of it - and if my recollection is correct at least a second one that is a visual homage in the episode where Bart played hookie). Unless you meant reconsideration that it doesn't deserve that acclaim. (Ftr, I'm not as big on the French New Wave as other people and it's been 20 years since I saw this one, but seeing it next to Mean Girls for "needing reconsideration"... like I said, unless you meant in the other direction...)
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    I didn't catch if it's purely Back to School or just general coming of age. Because not back to school, but coming of age would include something like The Bicycle Thieves or Valerie and Her Week of Wonders (I'll just assume now that Grudlian has seen the latter and doesn't like it). It's been so long that I don't recall where Amarcord falls. More recently We are the Best! was delightful. And I've seen Coppola's Rumblefish but not The Outsiders (both are probably redundant with Rebel without a Cause though). ETA: though a little bit younger in terms of coming of age stuff, Miyazaki did a good number of coming of age films (though it'd probably make sense to save that for an animation series).
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    I guess it depends on the framing. It sounded like the pivot away from doing the list still sounded like, "what we'd like to put on the list." Which then is a, "what list?," because as of right now, it sounds like "replacement for the AFI top 100 list," which gets back to grudlian's point of, kind of weird to talk about foreign films for the AFI list, since the AFI list is, well, it is what it is. I suppose there is a framing that makes the progression make sense*, but at the moment, it still feels like it highlights the flaw in the original conceit of using the AFI list as the marker (too restrictive, too American-centric). *: In terms of progression it might make sense to work up to a more international list, such as The Sight & Sound (or the top 100 from TSPDT) in something like a hypothetical season 3 (or if they're doing the Sight & Sound list, the season timed with the expected 2022 update).
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    Short answer - no. In something like ItMfL, the dynamic is just so different. Restless (as referred to in the opening credits) is one way they're separated. And in Casablanca, it's all pretty much overtly stated and acted out. The only thing they really had in common was the sense of, "this was just the wrong time and place for us. maybe in a different world," aspect. But even that's lands different, tonally. So, I have nothing to contribute off the top of my head for comparison to other, more contemporary movies.