Cam Bert

While I agree about the Wraith car, maybe it's just a prototype whipped up by the creep that watches porn at work. I mean he did invent the Oculus Rift years before it came out.

"Secret" spire? Like the Brand Building in 9 Lives?

I wanted to write something about the weird self driving car and weird future guns they were using. Now it's a common problem in sci-fi to have way too advanced technology in the future. Take Back to the Future Part II, they jump 30 years into the future and now you have hoverboards and self tying shoes and hologram Jaws. In 30 years technology does change. A computer in 1977 is very different than one in 2007. Yet Timecop is only a 10 year jump into the future. That's not a long time. Take the iPhone which is 10 years old this year. It is different but is all that different? Also guns and cars are two things that don't change all that rapidly. The more I thought about this and the more I thought about how the chief was unaware JCVD was from a alternate present it got me to thinking. What if there was a mission in which the a timecop when back to stop somebody from doing something in the mid 90s. During this mission something like their futuristic minidisk player was left behind. Said timecop was murdered or stuck in the past and somebody found the minidisk player and through backwards engineering accelerated technological advancement. As the past was changed the events rippled out and they were unaware in the future that they had sent that timecop back so they can't fix the mistake but can then enjoy the new technology. This happens a few times and that's why in ten years you get future guns and self driving cars.

My first reaction after the shock of him shirtless but in a vest was "Where's the mullet?" but thinking of when it was filmed you're probably right. I thought he was doing his best impression of Rick James in the video for Party All the Time

It was mentioned that the time travel in The Lake House was more logical and easy to grasp than the time travel in Timecop. This is unequivocally false!!! First, I must acknowledge the hard work everybody thus far has put into charting and plotting out the time travel elements of this movie. Granted it can be hard to follow because you have multiple people traveling to various locations over various times. Compared that to The Lake House and it's enchanted time traveling mailbox it seems rather complicated. However, it's that simplicity that does The Lake House in. In The Lake House Sandra Bullock and Keanu Reeves are not traveling through time. Nor are they crossing into any alternate realities or timelines. Unlike Timecop they remain constant in a singular timeline which when you think about it makes no sense. Let's take the case of the magical appearing tree in The Lake House. Sandy B is in a rain storm when all of a sudden a tree appears to provide her shelter when there wasn't one there. Keanu planted it two years ago so none of that should have happened! That tree should have always been there. It's not a time traveling tree that appears two years from the moment he plants it. It's a regular tree! She shouldn't have been shocked or wet because that tree should have already been there. Look at a similar scene in Timecop. Ron Silva gets kicked in the face by JVCD leaving him with a scar. At that moment a scar appears on his future self's face. Did that scar travel into the future? No it was a new event that happened in the past which altered things. Notice how Ron Silva didn't grasp his face and wonder what happened. He didn't react because for 2004 Ron Silva that scar had been there for years. Next The Lake House is full of paradoxes and actions with no consequences. Keanu and Sandra bullock both use their knowledge to effect things. Now as we and Timecop both know that changing the past creates a paradox. In Timecop there is talk about time ripples and we see how this events do effect the timeline when JVCD returns to a different future than the one he left. The whole world is effected by these changes, yet in The Lake House lives are altered and saved with no effect to the world. Again, Sandy B and Keanu are not moving in time only the letters are. If she sent a letter to two years in the past to save his life, in two years time he would be alive and at the architecture firm and give her no cause to go and send the letter to the past to save his life. This means the letter would not be sent which means he would be dead, which means she would send the letter, etc. Now we're stuck in a time loop. Timecop has more moving parts but with the exception of the exploding house, all the actions have consequences in the future when JVCD returns to it. Ron Silva gets his younger self to infest in microchips and now he runs things in the future when he didn't in scenes prior. Ron Silva is killed, he can't bride or influence Rae Dawn Chong into being evil so she's a regular cop. The actions of time travel have real consequences that we can see in Timecop. Things are in a not in a loop because they alter the universe. At the end of the day it comes down to this. Timecop has multiple people traveling through time whose actions change the timeline. It appears complicated but if charted and thought out makes sense. The Lake House only the letters travel through time and the people and things we see are suppose to be static. Yet they change thing and things appear when they shouldn't, events occur that shouldn't occur and no amount of charting and logic will ever make any of it make sense. In conclusion, fuck The Lake House!

Also in case you haven't seen this here's the music video for the closing credits song "Time Won't Let Me" featuring a shirtless JVCD rocking a harmonica. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljyt_45I6nw

Now that the whole pressing issue of time travel and timelines has been sorted out I want to talk about the dastardly roller blade bandit! So JCVD is a cop right? Granted he's off duty when he's on a mall date with his wife in the beginning but he's still a police officer. So when he witnesses a robbery in the mall his sense of well being and duty kick in and he stops the roller blade bandit. Now, he's off duty so he can't arrest him but there are multiple witnesses and he's in possession of the stolen goods. There has been an unbroken line of visual contact between the people in the mall the time the roller blade bandit. This is ripe for a citizen's arrest but instead JVCD, a trained police officer, let's him go basically if he returns the the stolen purse. What a terrible cop! This guy is on roller blades the optimum way to travel speedily in 1994. Who's to say that after returning that purse he's not going to try it again in a different mall or a different part of the same mall? Also maybe that's not the first time he's done it that day. JVCD seemingly doesn't care about any of this. Later in the film when JVCD goes back to the mall and sees the roller blade bandit he's so angry that he throws him into the Ruffles stand for what he was going to do. So when he stops the roller blade bandit for actually stealing a purse he lets him go and thinks nothing of it, but then when he sees him minding his own business in the past he roughs him up?

Well, I never watched Burlesque so I'm more than fine starting there.

Stop drilling, you've hit oil!

I kinda liked the fact that he was British. Much like the original casting of Jerry Orbach I like the idea of this character just using the name for show and being very much not Spanish. Just another layer to paint him as a bit more of a huckster type at the start. As for who I would have liked to have seen in the role, 1995? Hmmm... give me a moment to think. Pierce Brosnan? Though based on Mama Mia I don't know...

I'm interested for sure. Basically I'm 13 hours behind EST. As I work a Monday to Friday job my free time would be your Friday night until your Sunday morning. As long as I have some notice I can make time on the weekends. Even though I've been listening since the very start I didn't think it was necessary to watch along with the show until around Sharknado. I'm very down with the early movies people may have missed.

What did everyone think of the guy that played El Gallo? He looked like the love child of Peter O'Toole and Jesse Eisenberg to me. I thought he also seemed a bit... too normal perhaps.

One of my co-workers is obsessed with this show. Asked for comment on your choice they simply said "Iconic."

I'm not really one to dance. However certain songs if they catch me at the right time you can't help but move to.

In that case pick away at whatever movie. I should be able to get a hold somehow of most anything via streaming or hard disc as long as it's not too recent. Most important thing is fine a date and time that work well for all those that want to participate. Being in Japan and working a regular job EST Friday night is my Saturday mid-morning so that works well.

It's a good song and been in my head, but I think it would have been more affecting if it did bookend it all.

Well I'm game for whatever as well. Do some taste runs with the Chrome app and then we can pick the movie.

There is some overlap it depends on the movie.

He thought it was fun and she didn't understand how a movie could be so bad. Not sure about the movie club, but it seems like there's got to be an easy way to do it.

A co-worker of mine last year went on a first date to see this movie with a guy she met. There was no second date.

This clip reminded me of one of the questions I had while watching this, why is El Gallo so dead set against the fathers picking Henry? Also why is Henry kept in a box?

He's got a red wheelbarrow full of them and yet he's still taking them from my fridge! What a jerk.

Man I really want a plum now....

We've talked a lot about the story but the majority of the problems I had with this movie were technical things and Joey McIntyre. I guess he has that "aw shucks mister" innocence they were looking for. Not really but why else would they cast him? This was filmed in the mid 90s. New Kids heyday was over by then. Did they think casting him would draw in girls that use to be fans?

"Where are all the jerk off stories?"