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Musical Mondays Week 94 Preview (CakeBug Tranch's Pick)
Cam Bert replied to Cameron H.'s topic in How Did This Get Made?
I think Hello Dolly was my first Barbra Streisand movie (cameo appearances not included) and I'm curious to make this my second. Good choice. -
Musical Mondays Week 94 Preview (CakeBug Tranch's Pick)
Cam Bert replied to Cameron H.'s topic in How Did This Get Made?
Now I just remembered the horrors of Across The Universe and completely regret my decision... -
Musical Mondays Week 94 Preview (CakeBug Tranch's Pick)
Cam Bert replied to Cameron H.'s topic in How Did This Get Made?
You are missed as well. I gladly give the floor over to you. Pick away my good man. -
Musical Mondays Week 92 Mamma Mia!
Cam Bert replied to Cinco DeNio's topic in How Did This Get Made?
1. M -Meryl Streep F- Christine Baranski K- Julie Walters 2. M- Colin Firth F- Pierce Bronsan K- Stellar Skateboard And while we're at it Colin Firth is the right and only choice for Bridget Jones -
Musical Mondays Week 92 Mamma Mia!
Cam Bert replied to Cinco DeNio's topic in How Did This Get Made?
Why I can't speak to the motivation behind the A list actors being in this I saw it sort of like a typical Adam Sandler comedy which is an excuse to spend a month in Hawaii with his friends. -
Musical Mondays Week 92 Mamma Mia!
Cam Bert replied to Cinco DeNio's topic in How Did This Get Made?
I think frothy is a good way to describe it. Like when you really think about it you establish a lot of these characters with distinct personalities and yet none of that ever comes into play really. Is there any reason that Stellar Skateboard is a globetrotting author? Is that just to explain his boat? What about the one friend being a cookbook author? They give them these things to make them seem less cookie cutter but in the end none of that matters or is expanded upon. They just keep things light and frothy. -
Musical Mondays Week 92 Mamma Mia!
Cam Bert replied to Cinco DeNio's topic in How Did This Get Made?
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Musical Mondays Week 92 Mamma Mia!
Cam Bert replied to Cinco DeNio's topic in How Did This Get Made?
As far as the movie goes when all was said and done I knew it was bad and full of plot holes and pointless beats and characters. Yet it was fun and it moved and the music was good. It was neither incredible nor terrible. I don't think I would watch it again, but I do not bemoan having seen it. To me it is one of the most perfectly average movies ever. It took me away for an hour forty and sometimes that's all you need. -
Musical Mondays Week 92 Mamma Mia!
Cam Bert replied to Cinco DeNio's topic in How Did This Get Made?
That's mine too! In my humble opinion this is there best song musically. That opening synth stuff so good. I just want that playing. Since I want to add I'll throw in my number two which is... Also want to give a bonus shout out to King Kong Song which I doubt anybody will pick but is a fun rocky not very ABBA-like song. -
Time for a deep dark dive in the depths of my soul. Maybe I'm admitting too much to you people, but considering we just did Space Jam, am I alone in thinking Lola Bunny is like ten times sexier than Holli Wood?
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Well played. I honestly wish that scene didn't bother me as much as it did
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Yes to all of it. What is weirder is Holli has a picture of him in front of his casino in her room. In it he look very doodle like. Also, why does she have a picture of him? When they meet at the end they're like complete strangers. I haven't had a picture that big of somebody I didn't know on my walls since I was a teenager.
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If you want a real marker of of little attention or care was put into this movie look no further than the rabbit losing the dice game. She rolls two twos but the demon baby removes two dots from from the dice making it snake eyes. Fine, classic cartoon gag. Then when we cut back, both the dice are showing two threes. Not only that but one of the other sides of the die that is visible has a four. Anybody that knows anything knows that two opposite sides of a die add up to seven, so how can the three be on top and four on the side. They aren't even trying or paying attention.
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You know I thought a lot about this. Lonette and Holli are in a completely different style than the rest of the doodles so when Brad Pitt was turned into a doodle I thought he would be in a similar style to them but is far more cartoony then them.
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Musical Mondays Week 92 Preview (Taylor Anne Photo’s Pick)
Cam Bert replied to Cameron H.'s topic in How Did This Get Made?
No it hasn't been done. You're safe. -
Musical Mondays Week 92 Preview (Taylor Anne Photo’s Pick)
Cam Bert replied to Cameron H.'s topic in How Did This Get Made?
Here we go again.... -
Musical Mondays Week 92 Preview (Taylor Anne Photo’s Pick)
Cam Bert replied to Cameron H.'s topic in How Did This Get Made?
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There was one moment in the movie that really bummed me out. Not the death of Brad Pitt's mother but rather the said reality of what it means to be a doodle. When Holli is first explaining to Brad Pitt why she wants to be human she talks about the power that noids have. She says "When they touch something they feel it and when they taste something they really taste it and when they do it with a man they really do it." When you think about it it makes sense. Doodles and get blown up, smooshed, beat up and twisted all about and that's because they feel nothing. There is a masochist goon character in this movie who is being tortured just because he too wants to feel something. They have no need to eat or drink which means there is no fun or joy in their bars and dinners. Imagine a life where you only have the senses of sight and hearing and that's it. It's a boring dull life and making connections with others is hard and ultimately not fulfilling. It is a hell and no wonder she wants out. Also if when doodles do it they don't really do it, I feel very sorry for Brad Pitt at the end of the movie...
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You know I got bad vibes from him too! First, it's Maurice Lamarche! Brain himself! Kiff! Egon! A million other things! So he's an incredible talent and I don't want to fault him but certain lines of his had real sinister line readings. I keep wondering how good his intention were as well.
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I like your version of things better. There is serious thought and metaphor put into it. I watched the movie and knew that they didn't put either of those things into it so I went by what dialogue I could find.
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Okay I had a look through my notes and I think I can expand on the work @muttnik has already done to flesh this out a bit more. There are a few scenes in the movie that have key lines of dialogue about Cool World and it's relation to the Noid world. First, yes Cool World is in some other dimension or reality that exist parallel to ours. Doc Whisker invented the Spike with hopes of crossing over into Noid world. However, his first experiment brought Brad Pitt through. Upon seeing him Doc says two key things. First, Brad Pitt is the first body from Noid world to come through implying that people can come via their unconscious or vice versa. Later Deeds night club appearance is called a "mind slip" implying that these short visits might not be all uncommon but no one has permanently stayed. Second, Doc states that Brad Pitt is the first body to come through in his life time. We have no idea how old they are or how they age, but later it is stated the oldest rule in Cool World is "Noids do not have sex with Doodles." Could be that sometime before Doc's work somebody mind slipped into Cool World and had sex with a doodle which cause both of them to alternate between doodle and noid to the point of their death. This also explains why at the end Nails and Brad Pitt's girlfriend know that if a Noid dies in Cool World they become a Doodle. Likely this was also long before Doc's time, but as Noids weren't really part of their life so one paid it heed accept Doc who states that inter-dimension travel to the Noid world has been an obsession of his. Now Brad Pitt does state that he's never had to enforce the no sex law but that's not because other Noids haven't visited. In fact shortly after saying that he tells Deeds that Holli has tried to sleep with him and "every other Noid that has come through here." Most likely there have been mind slips with other people in the time since Brad Pitt had been there but nobody has permanently crossed over. At some point after Brad Pitt's crossing Doc Whiskers crossed over and took his spike with him. However given Brad Pitt's car and their access to Marilyn Monroe films we could speculate that he went back and forth bringing things or attempting to bring things over possibly as tests. Doc Whisker's crossing into Noid world did permanent damage to the link between worlds and he had to create someplace to house the spike to keep the worlds apart. This is why he created the casino and why he never went back. The spike maybe what caused others to mind slip into Cool World. It was during a mind slip that Deeds saw Cool World and it inspired his comic. Due to the fact he gets the characters name wrong (he calls the bouncer Chico to which the bouncer replies 'aint no Chico here') these were merely visions he had and never actually spent time there. Sometime later Holli, influenced by the human things she saw, like Pinocchio wanted to be a real and live in the Noid world. However, because no Doodle and Noid had sex in years she was unaware of the impermanent nature of the transformation and sought the spike as a means to heal herself unaware of it's true function of keeping the worlds apart. How the neighbour and wife murder and other plot points fit in your guess is as good as mine.
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So there are many issues with the comic book store. First, unlike Tall John said there are other comics in the shop it's not just Cool World. We see some Batman and Superman wall books, a couple Akira comics, and in Jack's stack of things he was buying we can see an issue of New Gods and Teen Titans. The fact that DC did a prequel comic is starting to make a bit more sense. Second, all the Cool World books are behind the register. They're like nudie magazines at a convenience store or something in which you have to ask the clerk for them. How are people suppose to look through them? Is Cool World for adults only? Third, they are selling a very rare signed from prison issue of Cool World. What would indicate if a comic was signed in or not in prison? It's issue number 3 so clearly it was published before his time in prison. What's to stop some schmuck from folding an autographed issue they already had in half and claiming it was from prison? That's another thing. The comic is folded in half with a very hard crease. That's got to bring the comic down a ton in value even if it was autographed from prison. Lastly and this is more of an Easter Egg than a nonsensical thing, but the rather larger gentleman in the comic shop is seen reading an issue of Animation Magazine. Not only that but it's an issue with Ralph Bakshi (Cool World's director) on the cover of it.
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Well clearly there are police because we have that whole chase scene so I want to know is if Brad Pitt is working with them. If so he managed to become a detective it seems so that means he had to work his way up through the ranks. At one point was Brad Pitt riding around in that police car with a bunch of tiny guys? Did he have a beat that he walked? I want to know.
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I'm not sure if people know this but if you want a break from bad movies The National Theatre, The Show Must Go On (Dame Sir Andrew Lloyd Weber), and Shakespeare's Globe YouTube channels are all uploading free full length plays for short windows of time for people to watch. If you're into Shakespeare today The National Theatre is doing Anthony and Cleopatra starring Voldemort himself Ralph Fiennes and Sophie Okonedo. And Macbeth next Monday over on The Globe's channel. If you act quickly you can still catch the Cumberbatch/Lee Miller Frankenstein on The National Theatre and The Globe's The Two Noble Kinsmen.