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I still contend that Trucks is the better movie of the two. (like from a technical, storytelling, editing, etc standpoint. Maximum Overdrive is still the better HDTGM movie, however.)
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In the other Trucks movie, Trucks, the trucks just drove by the pumps a lot and honked at them until they got the message. Also they recognized that the guy who worked at the gas station was the one who controlled the fuel and narrowly yet deliberately avoided killing him a couple times to drive the message home they wanted him for something, but no morse code even though they had a guy from the air force in the movie who presumably could have translated. Also, the drainage pipe that you still have to run through a bunch of trucks to get to made an appearance in that movie too, but in that one the trucks were one step ahead and dealt with it in a really good way (although the point of the drainage pipe was even dumber than it was in Maximum Overdrive, so I guess I'll take that point back.) Was that in the short story?
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Just watched Trucks, and i would say it's definitely the better movie, but Maximum Overdrive is the better HDTGM movie. Although there's still plenty to talk about in Trucks, like how in order to deal with a massive explosion and chemical leak, the government sends 2 guys, and in order to deal with a region wide blackout the power company just sends one guy. And how when somebody grabs Air Force dad's daughter's arm to hurry her along he says "hey take it easy with the offspring pal." Rules of vehicular possession is still random too, cars seem to be fine, same with motorcycles, but anything truck like is a target for coming alive, even a toy. Minivans count as cars, but Pickup trucks count as trucks and not cars, and things inside trucks can come alive too, also helicopters. Better writing, directing, storytelling (not that it was a very high bar to meet) Better ending too. The survivors of Rays, are presumably not still survivors. (shoulda went on a boat, but no, let's trust the heelacopteraerialplane to not be evil.)
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Also, not quite an entry for How Did This Get Made all stars, but the Zeke's Garbage Removal truck in Maximum Overdrive which runs over the kid's dad was an Autocar A64 B...which helped reunite a kid with his dad in Over The Top. (not sure if its the exact same truck, though.)
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Its also incredibly easy to fire those, all that shoulder mounting stuff on the bottom and aiming reticle malarky on the top are just for show to make it look that much more badass when you fire it from the hip like you're Tony Montana. Also, it was 100% unloaded when the waitress grabbed it to do her encore performance of "WE MADE YOU!", (Bubba had just fired it at the Cat and got murdled by the machine gun hoopty immediately after and then she grabbed it) Yet when she died it fired off another rocket into the air like it was a signal flare.
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So a thought that occurred to me while watching this movie is...are these animated machines racist? The trucks seem to spread the word to other trucks of availability of fuel and people to provide it, they never attacked each other, waited patiently for their turns, etc. But fuck if they didnt care about murdering the hell out of any other machine. Phone booth? Not a truck, don't care, ram that bitch. Cars? They're not trucks, eww, they're like pygmy trucks, run them down who cares. That plane kamikaze'd that school bus, the Cat fucked up that car a lot and pushed the other into the building. About the only cooperation from them was the Cat helping the trucks, and that weird ass not-jeep-gun-whateverthefuck thing with the gun, which I'm sure the trucks thought were "one of the good ones."
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10-4 good buddy, but lets be fair, how were they going to do that? Its not like large semi's would have some kind of radio broadcasting device installed in them which could facilitate communication...So just inventing that out of whole cloth wouldn't be believable. Over.
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So for Bubba's death, it kinda looked like it was meant to be as a slowed realization of the bullets kinda thing that movies like to do. (you get shot, you seem kinda fine, slump a little and look at a blood stain getting bigger, and then die.) Of course, it doesnt make much sense since theres a...thing...with a machine gun that just fired, so it was pretty obvious he would have fully realized it the instant it happened. Couple other things about that moment. So, the first quick volley of the machine gun fires and kills Bubba, cut to a scene of the main characters diving for cover...and then the random superfluous truckers are all still just standing around waiting to be hit with bullets, which happens shortly thereafter. Also, what the fuck is that thing? That car/buggy/weaponized Gator? Its not a Jeep with a mounted machine gun, its like a platform on wheels that just has a gun sticking out of it...it doesnt have anywhere for someone to sit but it has a steering wheel just jutting out in the front. Is that a real thing? What the fuck is that thing? Is it real? Whats it for? And does it actually exist? --- For 2., I would also like to point out that dumb trucker who steals the ring thought that it was so valuable and awesome to have that he drops his giant fucking gun and backpack full of supplies and just leaves them. When he runs up to the car he sets them down, when hes called back to the group he just walks away from them. If he had lived, he would have been the first to be eaten, or at least the first to go on any suicide-run supply raids. "Hey dumb dumb, just remember to actually bring back the food you steal from that refrigerated truck you need to hunt down this time and dont get distracted by any shiny rocks." "Yeah, sucks you have to go up against a murderous 18-wheeler with only a pointy stick, if only you had a sniper rifle you could have used instead, oh well."
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So has anyone seen Trucks? And how does it compare to Maximum Overdrive, because I cant remember anything about either of them. (still havent got around to watching the movie, was considering watching both Trucks and Maximum Overdrive though, and then hoping I dont confuse myself listening to the podcast.)
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Well 10 is still quite a ways away, and they probably already have a working title for 8, so probably best to try and find names for 9 instead. In fact, I think I just this very minute came up with a good one. Fast Nine: Your Seatbelts
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My favorite part about that is that he hijacks a bunch of computers at an internet cafe because hes a badass hacker...then when it shows what hes doing, he's literally just emailing a word document to some reporters. Also, if during the birdemic scene in London, you were thinking "weird, it kinda looked like one of those birds was a fish." Thats because it was... (As usual for a movie with a good rifftrax for it, I've seen this quite a bit, thanks Quiptracks - http://www.theootl.c...&products_id=11 )
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Its not nonsensical if your only opponents stand less than 3 feet away from you in a circle, have eyesight on par with an earthworm or just aim way worse than a stormtrooper, haven't even cocked their guns yet, and are literally scarecrows filled with talcum powder...luckily for ol' Cleric John Preston, that's the case roughly 90% of the time he has to use it. Also about the "statistically traditional trajectories of return fire", I turn to the Quiptracks iriff: "I know he's standing over there, but my family has been using these trajectories of return fire for generations! Why should I change for this guy?!" Thats basically the only way the movie's gunkata works.
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Is have to watch that part again, but potentially he downshifted it while braking? That would drive the revs up, especially if the car has auto blip for rev matching, and if it focused on his feet you might not see him shifting, since I don't think it has a clutch pedal. Not that I think that's it, since it's more likely to be an oversight/editing thing of someone putting in random car noises, but it's at least a possibility.
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Another thing about the movie I thought was going to come into play, but never did...did anyone else think that Shaw put a tracking device in the cross necklace? Because he knew Dom would always have it with him, and that would explain how he would always just show up? I thought once he gave it to Letty there was going to be a confrontation between those two because until he got there he thought he was tracking Dom. But I guess not. Also, my hope for Shaw-matriarch...what with the way that they need to keep escalating, I'm thinking Dame Maggie Smith with a cybernetic power armor suit.
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I think they were banking on the fact that not many people give a shit about Tokyo Drift, and probably completely forgot he was supposed to be a highschool student. Also, I would like to voice my disagreement for watching Tokyo Drift, its just boring. It has a few good moments, and Han is good, but overall its a slog, IMO. Also, again on the fanfiction angle, they asked if there was any How Did This Get Made fanfics, not sure, but I guess there is now (again, in the style of Hans von Hozel, because in my mind thats the only fanfic that matters.) --- How Did This Get Made, by Not von Hozel: There once was a podcasting of how to creation of a Glimmer Man. "I know how to making a Glimmer Man" say Jason, but suddenly his beard made a falling off. "Oh no, my beard made a falling off!" Jason shout a sadly, as he danubed into another June. Suddenly, all the people in the world to turn into Junes, but only is one Paul. The Junes try to make a fight in the streets to keep him, but they only knowing how to tornado. "Much tornado now!" yelled the Junes, as the tornados danubed all the Junes and made a throwing of them into space. "Yay!" Say each planet in space, as they all get its own June now.
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Oops, I did that thing... --- Fast and the Furious: by Not von Hozel One day Dom was making an angry because he wasn't fast enough. "Must to be faster than Shaw!" yell Dom as he danubed his car to go faster. "I cannot faster!" said car. "But my family need it!" shout Dom, and he shifted the gear on the car again. "Much fast" The car say, but suddenly the car too fast and danubed a portal in time. "Oh no" yell Dom "I made a drive to the past!" Dom drove to his home but his home wasnt there yet, but dinosaurs! "Dinosaurs to being my family now?" say Dom But the dinosaurs not liking Dom because he making them into fuel for car. "You not making me into a fuel" shouts the dinosaurs, and bite him. "Now we making him into a fuel." and they driving into the future. But dinosaurs not allowed to drive the car in the future, and they to getting arrested by Hobbs. "Oh no," say the dinosaurs "only wanted to make a fast, but now am getting put in jail, this is a badly." And so Hobbs eated them because they kill Dom.
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And now, Fanfic. So I looked, and the king of all fanfics, Hans von Hozel, has not graced Fast and Furious with a story (guess he got too busy what with writing his fanfics for Guess Who, Mr Hollands Opus, Kindergarten Cop, and sure why not, Sputnik) But here are some descriptions of other Fast and Furious Fanfics. Sophia Toretto: "Dom and Letty have been dating for a while now. But did you know that they had a daughter a year after they started dating? Why didn't she grew up with the Toretto's? At the age of two Sophia Toretto was taken away from her parents, and was adopted by a rich couple named Owen Shaw and his wife Claire. What if many years later they're paths crossed again." Not just a School Girl: "Ray is new to Tokyo and from day one she meets trouble. When Han comes into her sights there is a connection but Han does not date school girls. Will he break his own rule for her or will it be too late will she end up trapped with Morimoto?" We Are Young: "Mykie O'Conner is Brian's twin, and older by two minutes, sister. She comes home from exploring abroad to spend time with her brother, only to end up getting sucked into the drama of Echo Park. She meets the Toretto Clan, and it all goes down-hill from there. Especially when she falls, and falls hard, for Jesse." An Eye For An Eye: "He put one Shaw in a coma and dropped a car park on the other, now Hell is coming for him. Elizabeth Shaw is out for Dom's blood, and nothing will stop her - not even Hobbs' fist. Owen is awake, Deckard is free and the streets of LA will never be the same. Dotty. Bria. OShetty. Tamsey. HobbsOC (LukESh). Veghkard. PregLetty. HEA. Completed. Under Construction!" Irresistable: "He was breathing heavily, trying to keep himself from lashing out at the small girl. He wanted nothing more than to strangle the little bitch until she turned blue but that tiny logical part of his brain knew that doing so would only lead to a one-way trip six feet under. So he did the next best thing. He punched Brian." ... ... Baby's First Joyride: "Because in the O'Connor house, firsts aren't limited to steps or words or teeth. The real firsts always have their roots set in cars. Slight Bria. One-shot." Hmm, now I kinda want to write a fanfic for Fast and Furious in the style of Hans von Hozel...
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Few points/things: About the second audience question, (why did the Fast crew go after all this stuff when Statham was showing up all the time anyway?) That WAS Dom's plan, Kurt Russell talked him out of it because it meant that any confrontation with Shaw would have been on Shaw's terms and he could ambush them at will, basically. You guys also asked about Jordana Brewster's actions in the previous movies, if she was a racer or not. And no, she as always a sideline character. She had a little shop/restaurant that was kind of the cover for Dom in the first movie, when Dom went on the run she stayed behind because she was innocent. In Fast 4, she was still staying at home, until the very end where she was driving one of the cars that broke Dom out of the prison bus. When she went on the run with them in Fast 5 she was still basically a support character. Also, am I the only one who legit thought that by the end of the movie Shaw was going to side with the Fast's? Like he kinda had this fascination with them, and there's that one point where he has a sniper rifle on Dom but is just too interested in what he was planning to do to fire. I kinda thought there was going to be some kind of grudging respect thing going on, and they team up to go after the random terrorists. Also as far as spin-offs go, how about "Fast & Furious - Ludacris Speed"
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If only they used more things from the old games...
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With as pathetic as bending is represented in the first movie, I can't imagine Toph can see very well if at all. I wouldnt be surprised if when using Shamalan's patented "shove the stupid camera 4 inches from their dumb face in the middle of the screen" technique its just the back of her head.
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Bad movie options- Buzzfeed's How Many Bad Movies Have You Seen?
Joven replied to GuinnessLumberjack's topic in Bad Movie Recommendations
I thought I was doing bad with only 90 (counting rifftrax/mst3k) And yes, those are the only bad movies ever. Frogs - clearly as good and as scary as The Birds. The Covenant - Harry Potter can, indeed, now kiss its ass. Bail Out - Doesnt need a bail out, its Hasselhoff as a bounty hunter named White Bread and his latino sidekick Beaner, how can't it be good? Righteous Kill - Pachino and Deniro, "national treasures", they can do no wrong, its almost as good as 88 minutes, another good movie now. Although this list did remind me, I need to re-find that fan page for The Del-Aires, the band from Horror at Party Beach who sang The Zombie Stomp. -
One good thing about this is, Quiptracks has a good free rifftrax of this movie. So if you are ever going to watch it, you don't have to do it alone.
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Also, Molly is shit at her job too. I mean dinos are obviously incredibly horny all the time, so she doesnt have to be I guess, but her singing and dancing are straight up butt turrible.