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I definitely understand that cause I really loved Cottonmouth too. Mahershala fuckin' killed that role. Also...

I loved Diamondback purely for his contrast to Cottonmouth. They were complete opposites in their way of handling all situations and it was very interesting to see, but I will agree that after a while there were some things that I was like, "Okay we get it." And I actually really enjoyed the Method Man song lol, but literally all of the music was sooo goooood!

There was only one time I nodded off but it was my bed time so I attributed it to that. I would definitely give it another try when you don't have a newborn taking all of your waking hours and see how you do lol. Omg Theo Rossi was amazing we may have to fight over this lol

Y'all touched briefly on the horror of the lyrics but really this is a song from an abusive boyfriend to the girl that finally left his ass. And it's creepy as fuck to hear but that's what makes it so damn brilliant! I was worried for half a second that y'all were gonna say this was a totally normal song to hear from a guy singing to his girl but then you said it was an OJ kind of love song and I busted out laughing and stop that worry lol. It's such a creepy song but interesting and amazing and I love it and my GOD is it fun to sing along to! Also I wish I had called in about my favorite lyric because that perfect tongue twister from Daveed in "Washington on Your Side" is now what I say to myself every time I need to get pumped up! I mean the whole song pumps me up, of course, but that line, "I'm in the cabinet I am complicit in watching him grabbin' at power and kissin' it. If Washington isn't gonna listen to disciplined dissidence this is the difference this kid is out! OH!" That line gets me loud and ready to go for whatever it is I need to do! Especially amazing as a warmup to a workout to really get your ass in gear lol.

Yessssss! IT'S SO GOOD!

Ugh it's only Wednesday. Has anyone finished Luke Cage yet? Cause I'm obsessed and wanna talk about it lol.

This is also assuming their bodies really function exactly like human bodies do. They clearly don't need any sunlight and therefore do not suffer from any kind of Vitamin D deficiencies, and any kind of human diseases like scurvy or hypertension are no issue either. So do they resemble other kinds of mammals more than they do humans on the inside? Dogs and cats are carnivores and do not suffer the same kinds of issues we do but also breathe oxygen and reproduce. Are the Moroi basically just the pets of the Dhampir that they worship like Egyptians worshiped cats?

I may just be tired this morning but does Earwolf no longer let you edit posts after a certain amount of time?

I wish I were here earlier to help you out cause I'm a huuuge fan of Tanis! It's so good! In my opinion the story is way more solid than its sister podcast The Black Tapes which I had talked about in an earlier thread. But they make a joke about Tanis sounding like Tennis in the first episode and use it for part of their theme song lol.

I don't specifically remember this, but maybe he's super old school misogynist and doesn't count girls? He's the last male heir in his line? Or he could just super hardcore hate Natalie since he didn't seem to give a flying shit that she changed herself into Strigoi for him at the end.

I was thinking a lot about the references Rose makes in this movie. When we're introduced to the two of them we're told immediately that Lyssa doesn't understand modern day references, or any references for that matter. But we're also simultaneously introduced to the fact that Rose knows everything. My continuing questions is... how??? She is a Dhampir that is raised with Lyssa and other Dhampir and Moroi children who then come at her with questions like, "What's a hashtag!" So when did Rose get to watch things like Pretty in Pink, Mission Impossible, Gladiator, etc etc to be able to make these kinds of references? And then why does Lyssa have such a hard time figuring out any kind of reference when Rose is her best friend and practically sister. You could make the argument that during that year while they were on the run they had to spend so much time lying low that they really had enough movie nights to cover their whole lives, but then Lyssa should not be putting up a Jimmy Carter poster to appear to blend in with humans. Also when they return to VA every time Rose makes some kind of reference no one looks at her like she's crazy. They all seem to go along with her witty references pretty immediately. This could be because she is just a witty person and they could all just assume that she's making these things up as she goes along, but it just seems odd. Like if I had never seen Pretty in Pink and then someone called me "Duckie" I would question the shit out of it or at the very least make a confused facial expression.

In my opinion, the worst thing about the headmistress is that her go to punishment for Rose for running off with Lyssa is selling her to the porn industry to be a "blood whore" for hire. She legitimately tells her that she'll be turned into a prostitute for people to film and that's an okay punishment for a 17 year old.

So I just found out that my co-worker read all 6 VA books and all 6 of the spinoff books that stars the side characters that are introduced in later books. He told me that apparently Rose's mom is a badass and is a leader of the Dhampirs and her father actually is alive and is hella rich from selling shit on the vampire black market.

I only read the first one so I think they must cover parts of that in the first one as well because I have at least more info than they gave in the movie. She is a Dhampir guardian that is like severely hardcore about putting the protection of Moroi before everything, including Rose, which to my understanding, is why Rose grew up with Lyssa and her family. Her father was Moroi but I can't remember if he just split and said fuck y'all and went off on his own or died.

Correction y'all: Sadly this movie does not cover more than one book. It's mind blowing, for sure, but every single plot point in this movie is stuffed into one book. Also, they never go into the year they were gone in the book nor a whole lot into Lyssa's family. Literally everything you see is how they presented it in the dumb book. Also Dhampirs are the guardians and they technically are vampires but they're considered half-vampires I'm pretty sure? At least that's the way it was explained in the books. Rose herself is legitimately half Dhampir and half Moroi but I don't think they ever actually mention that in the movie.

I personally have not seen it yet, and Drive & Bronson are the only ones I have seen by Refn, which I loved both, but the criticisms set forth do not make me want to see it. I mean I do want to form my own opinion on it and two of my close friends both loved it, but more of my friends did not like it at all. This review actually is what is keeping me from seeing it sooner. I have to agree with 24 Hour Party Pizza and the woman who wrote that review that even the trailer screams of Refn trying to comment on the negative sides of a society without actually saying it's negative.

I'm trying to decide if I should watch this piece o' crap again before the episode drops so that I have legitimate notes to provide for C&Os. It's surprisingly still fresh on my mind though... Although apparently I didn't watch it just a month ago but rather right after Simply Irresistible back in June. I must have been on a bad movie rampage.

I didn't read Frostbite so maybe. But other than specific character names that I didn't recognize there isn't much that was listed that wasn't in the movie. I'm laughing that they think 46k twitter followers = a good business decision to make the sequel.

I really really really hope the gang talks about how the school was legit going to sell a teenager to the porn industry.

Yup! There are 6 fucking books in this series and the movie only covers one of them. I couldn't finish the 3rd book to save my life. And I've only ever seen the first movie (and fucking hated it with the passion of a thousand burning suns).

I'm the same way! I couldn't finish this series nor the Divergent series so I think that shines a light on that shit lol.

My college roommate was rather obsessed with them so she lent me her copies. It is really hard to get through the first part of that first book but it actually picks up towards the the middle & end. But then I tried to read the second one and like you got through the first chapter and was like "nope, can't do it." What's hilarious about the fans of the book not liking the movie is that the movie stays rather true to the source. The book is fucking ridiculous and I guess it just took them adapting it to realize how stupid and over the top everything is.

Omg. I just willingly watched this movie about a month ago. I did read this book and everything is so laughable. I am so ready.

Hey I said 3 fictional characters! There were no rules set in place!