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Maybe "Ultimate Unicorn" will be my member title next.

Damn straight I made that claim! Also if it's a myth and I'm considered a myth within the myth (even in the LGBTQ community the B and the Q are sometimes considered not real) does that make me the ultimate unicorn?

Omg Cameron if we're gonna talk about favorite lines then I'm gonna throw in some gems! 1. "One day we'll be the seniors." OKAY COOL HATS THANKS FOR THAT BRILLIANT PIECE OF INFORMATION THERE 2. "I have a little brother I know about men." I am not sure I want to know how that makes her an expert on men...

Okay yes that's the scene I was mentioning in my first water point BUT the way she delivers that line doesn't lead me to believe that because her powers are weak is the reason that water reverses them. She literally tells Luis Guzman that she didn't do anything to reverse them because her powers are weak and they'll eventually wear off, but then immediately states that water can reverse her spells in the next sentence. It's just poor sentence structure there. If she wanted to fully explain all she would have to do is say, "Oh because your power are new and weaker the water acts as a reversal. They'll get stronger." BOOM I just explained that 100% better.

I know I mentioned this in the mini-thread but I still think we all really missed out on a scene where Louise steals a baby, bathes in blood, and then dances naked in front of a fire. Would have really tied all of the Salem parts of this movie together.

Ha I totally forgot to post about that! He looks like some hipster straight outta Silver Lake!

I think this is exactly why the gang said they felt like he was acting the way he was because his parents were neglectful to him. I thought her parents were pretty shitty at parenting throughout the entire movie with both of them actually. Like her mother picks out the worst clothes for her to wear and then throws out some extremely manipulative lines like "It's okay if you don't like it but they were really expensive." I can't stand when parents or family members do that to children. You made the fucking choice to buy it without paying attention to your child's sense of style! And maybe that's part of the reason why Richie acted out a lot. He saw that their parents doted over Louise over and over again while he sat there ignored until they questioned whether or not he was on drugs.

You can take the "date" out of that. He tried to rape her. And that was his actions, not Randa's, that caused that.

Hey the AIDS crisis happened in the 80s and everyone thought that was just a "gay disease" so I think better yet "lesbians" weren't invented until 1990

*rubs hands together* I wanted to start off my entire post by going into the selfish assumptions that Louise had with everyone that I personally think is a greater image of what the studio, writer, and director had of teenage girls. To me this entire movie is saying that in order to feel complete and cool you need a man. Louise wasn't fulfilled by her popularity when she had people chasing after her but did whenever she was with Brad. Now she had that existential crisis about whether or not he actually liked her or it was just the spell but still at the end of the movie when we are I guess supposed to assume that when she takes off the necklace and he still comes over to dance and kiss her that means he likes her for her and nothing else. However, there is no lesson for her to learn like the gang pointed out in the episode. She still thinks that the thing that ultimately makes her happy is that Brad likes her and everything is cool again. They don't even show her properly making up with Hats so are we to assume that they never talk again because now Louise has Brad? And Hats does actually tell Louise that she likes the white rapper and thinks she could never be as "funky" as him (which oh my lord calling him funky was enough hilarity to last me a lifetime) so Louise fulfills her wish and gives her the power to be funky and win the guy over... but then doesn't follow through because a few scenes later we see him chasing after Louise during the "Most Popular Girl" montage. Louise is really a shitty friend if she can't even do that for Hats. So then that brings me to one of my main points about the assumption of teenage girls in this film. I LIKE BOYS!!! That whole thing not only assumes right off the bat that every single one of those girls automatically knew the choreography for a song they had never heard before but it completely assumes the sexuality of every single one of them as well! There was maybe 15 cheerleaders in that locker room doing that number and you're telling me that every single one of them just likes boys? Okay I'll give it the benefit of the doubt that maybe some of them were bisexual or pansexual and could still comfortably be like "YEAH BOYS!" but it's genuinely hard for me to think that not a one of them would be like, "Okay but I like girls so..." Maybe I'm thinking just way too much in the modern times because I know for certain that girls in the 80s who were not straight would have still just gone with the flow to avoid being the pariah and a social outcast. Especially if they were cheerleaders. But it still just shows how much heteronormativity was within our culture when the entire movie specifically points out that girls are in want of a boy in high school. Also that all boys are just creeps! I wasn't sure how I was gonna tie this into this post I was making but bam I just did it! Every single man in Louise's life was absolutely creepy in one way or another! Her brother is introduced by eating an entire chocolate cake underneath her bed while she fucking slept, her father likes to point out how much he likes her appearance (which she responds with a, "Yeah I know this is your favorite color." So I have to agree with June that that relationship was weird.), Brad is introduced through her sexual dreams and stalkerish behavior (which is less on his part and more hers but it's still a super creepy way to introduce the main love interest), her English teacher emotionally abuses her and reads her diary out in front of the entire class like it's no big deal (she then goes on to sexual assault him and turn him into a pedophile who should have been arrested ON SPOT after undressing in front of a class of minors!), and Randa's cousin actually tries to rape her!! What is the real message here with these?! That sexual harassment is a hilarious gag to move the plot along? That creepy behavior is to be expected of men?? That women are to be expected to play along in most of this creepiness??? OH! And let us please not forget that Louise was full on going to turn Brad into a sex slave with Serena's encouragement and take away all consent he had in the matter. If her whole "but does he like me for me!" thing hadn't taken over this movie would have given me the a worse taste in my mouth than it already did. I'm sure I have more and I'm sure I'll be back with it. I would apologize for the length but I'm not sorry for it at all hahaha.

I have SO MUCH to talk about but I'll make a separate post for that cause I need to throw in more crazy things now that we have all started thinking about this water situation. 1. Serena told Luis Guzman that nothing reversed the dog spell because her powers are new and weak, but then immediately says it was the water she dumped him in. 2. She makes it RAIN! Y'all does the act of making rain immediately reverse the rain spell and it just starts raining on its own??? 3. Her popularity spell would then all be dependent on the fact that she would not be able to shower, right?! Like that spell must have been crazy strong for her to be probably stinking up the entire school and still be the most popular girl. UNLESS THIS STUPID WATER THING IS WRONG AND MEANS NOTHING ugh

Oh my goodness this shouldn't even be a close call Creed. Please for your own sanity watch Creed.

I saw The Witch yesterday and now I'm really sad there isn't a scene where Louise steals a baby, bathes in blood, and then dances naked by a fire.

For a brief moment I thought that was a scene from The Apple that I had missed

Or Teen Witch: The College Years where they sing "I Actually Like Girls!" and it's the story about how Kiki and Randa are roommates and discover they've been in love the whole time.

I just really can't wait for the main thread to pop up so I can really go into the assumption of sexuality this song places on all of those girls.

And all the hair drying! Were they gonna rip the dryers out of the wall and bring them onto the football field?

To me she was looking on with envy. She just really wished that when that one girl (was that Kiki?) went "Hey cheerleaders!" she was part of that general greeting and then automatically knew that choreography with them. EDIT: It's my 420 post so somewhere Doug Benson's alarm is going off and you can hear Linda Belcher singing "It's 420 somewheeerrreee!"

I actually saw it for the first time a year ago after a coworker found out I had never even heard of it and forced me to watch Top That on youtube. I've been petitioning for this to be done here ever since lol.

Lando, that's very upsetting

I've already got my advanced tickets for Bloody Bleeding Blood Guy

Or how he was eating an entire chocolate cake underneath her bed while she slept!?

Lord I hope the episode is dropping tomorrow because I have so many things I want to talk about.

I wonder if this podcast somehow put them back in business with the sudden influx of purchases they've received. What have we done!?

Yep! I definitely put "murder house" in my notes when referring to this scene!