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A good quote from what I just posted - "In Romeo and Juliet, the play ends in tragedy because no one listens to Juliet. Her father and Paris both insist they know what's right for her, and they refuse to listen to her pleas for clemency. Juliet begs them - screams, cries, manipulates, tells them outright 'I cannot marry, just wait a week before you make me marry Paris, just a week, please,' and they ignore her, and force her into increasingly desperate straits, until at last the two young lovers kill themselves. The message? This violent, hate-filled patriarchal world is unsustainable. The promise of regeneration is cut down with the deaths of these children."

Here's an insanely long image that I'll just post the link to instead, because it was screenshotted from Tumblr and it's incredibly interesting and relevant to our conversation, and also paints to how women are treated in his tragedies vs. his comedies. View here.

Do you view R+J as more of a comedy yourself?

That's very interesting! I will admit that I know next to nothing about the actuality of those times, but there are a lot of media that portrays young teen girls as being women once they get their first period, and I could have sworn they mention that with Juliet but now I'm not positive because it's been so long since I've read it. If it's true that marriages skewed older than the ages of R+J then it makes me wonder why he had them so young. Maybe he was trying to highlight the ridiculousness in their love, or maybe he was trying to highlight the societies ridiculousness towards marriage and feuds and then make it slightly out of reach by having them be younger and set in Italy rather than England. So many things to ponder. What I do think I really like about West Side Story's adaptation is that they take the bs that is this pointless feud and translate it to the pointlessness of racism. It's still gang related and painted as being Sharks v Jets, but it really comes down to races hating each other and in the height of the 60s during the Civil Rights Era that seems especially poignant.

Yeah the full recording seems very sporadic and then all edited together, cause it doesn't ever seem like their guest recordings are at the same time as their conversations either.

I'm not in NYC but this is awesome and I so support this from afar!

We got so close that one Halloween when Paul mentioned it as a possibility in a minisode, and I felt like this movie was a dollar on a fishing line that was yanked away lol.

I believe that we all fall into a modern sense of R+J when we dissect it though. Like Ol' Eddy I haven't read this since high school, and I have a feeling that since a lot of us are at the ages of R+J when we first experience it then a lot of it makes sense of being this grand love, because when we are teenagers everything seems sooooo dramatic and intense and that makes sense since Juliet is supposedly 13 and Romeo 17 (right? did i just make that up?). However, I think about it much more through the lens of Shakespearean times and things make sense in a totally different way. I have to imagine by that point when you're 13 you're a woman (hence marrying her off to Paris like it's nbd) and this is not the age of premarital sex. So, if you were physically attracted to someone and wanted to bone them that was considered love to you. In our modern eyes we can see that they were just hormonal teenagers wanting to bone, but back then this was in fact a love story, and they may have been happier in their lives together if they had been allowed to marry normally. It's extremely tricky to make adaptations in our era because then you get stuck with things like Little Italy or that 2013 R+J with Hailee Steinfeld and it completely ruins the source material. Or maybe the 2013 doesn't if truly people think it's supposed to be a comedy, because everyone in my showing of that was laughing their asses off and no one felt the tragedy that was supposed to show up. Anyway, my point is that I do think that times changing have hindered the impact of the story.

It makes me happy when I hear Gourley go into things he loves (like drawing and James Bond) and just has to tell Conan "trust me on this," and Conan has no idea what he's getting into lol!

I WILL NOT BE CONTAINED!!!!!!!!!! I would've said Day After Tomorrow anyway but LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE CAMERON!

I want this "Ted Bundy is hot" trend to die in a fire lol.

I think that's it exactly. The same with that Ted Bundy Zac Efron movie coming out soon cause we just hit the 30th anniversary of all that shit (it's either of his death or when he was arrested I shamefully can't remember because Bundy is not actually on my top list of murderers).

According to IMDB it was released August 21, 2009. His last two were late December so this does seem very early in the year for him. But I'm wondering if he's trying to take advantage of dead weeks where nothing good comes out. I think Jordan Peele and Marvel have shown that there's no longer a need for certain movies to come out only at a certain time. Although I'm still kinda meh on QT, but the story of the Manson family and Sharon Tate is up there for me in my murder story loving mind so I'm definitely interested to see what he does with all of that.

Haven't gotten to the episode yet, but I just want to dedicate this post to the perfection that is EGOT winner Rita Moreno. (And if y'all haven't seen One Day at a Time pls do because it's great and Netflix is dumb for cancelling it.)

Okay I haven't seen either of the Marx brothers films, but based on the clips they played to highlight the comedic moments in each episode, I vote that A Night at the Opera is the one that deserves to stay because the clips from this one made me laugh more and gave me more joy than what I heard from Duck Soup. Terrible way to base an opinion, I know I know, but one day I'll be able to actually get to all of these properly and make an educated decision.

Oh this is hilarious to me. I love calling a trend boring and then getting called a fascist. I also love being told I'm "Reddit" and apparently they hate me over there lol!

LMAO You're opinion was "They're too loud." We pointed out how there is a trend in sexism within comments. You got offended and want us to be nicer.

It was only somewhat directed towards you, because you directly responded to me the first time trying to distance yourself from the hate that had been directed towards Erin, rather than owning up to the fact that you replied to the comment that directly pointed out Erin and agreed with that person, only to seemingly cover yourself by naming two others as if that makes it okay. But then other people came in and named Erin and then Bryan and it started this trend. And the point that I'm still trying to make is that no matter what, like Cameron said, it's not a constructive comment. It's boring and takes away from the enjoyment a lot of us get from these forums. But yeah a lot of us are veterans here, and when I say that these comments are starting to get boring, it's not just because 4/5 of the first comments were about Erin's loudness, it's because we've seen this so much when a woman is a guest and especially on a live show. Anna Faris is the only female guest I've seen get hate from an in studio episode and every other one is a live show. So it's a huge pattern that is absolutely ridiculous.

In all fairness Elektra was the one that mentioned noticing the sexuality of all those getting so much hate. I noticed it always ends up being the women, because I can recall even with straight (or straight presenting) female guests get told by new forum users that they suck and shouldn't be invited back (Anna Faris, Natasha Leggero, Karen Kilgarrif, Tawney Newsome), but Elektra is right the truly vile things said were directed towards both Cameron Esposito and Tig Notaro and it's very interesting what those two women have in common. It's really just boring. And people can cover it up with saying other people involved were annoying or yelling too, but they always ALWAYS mention the woman first and then act like they're okay because then they mention the gay man or Jason as well. It's BORING feedback that you should all know Paul doesn't give a shit about to begin with.

That's a Stitcher Premium only unfortunately. Because it was part of a podcast festival they never released it from behind the paywall.

Soooo... are you waiting for us to guess or is there a certain time you're just gonna tell us?