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I'm super late here (never been to Canada and don't have a clue about Canadian delicacies) but the best drunk food is Whataburger. Taquitos, burgers, chicken sandwiches, fries, etc etc. You name it when you are drunk it'll be THE BEST FOOD EVER!

Elektra, I'm sending you a million internet hugs and this gif of a bald baby hugging puppies <3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zdNdjF-htY

Agreed, Cameron. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQbiNvZqaY This song never fails to make me happy.

I'm the same right now. My entire life is so budgeted that yeah an extra $3-$5 a month is felt. I really wish I could throw money at them because the amount of work that goes into this and every other podcast I listen to is amazing and they really deserve to get properly paid.

Reddit would find nasty things to say about a puppy and a kitten becoming best friends

Nope, this movie is gold and I will fight for it till my dying day.

How DARE you remind me of this fact lol Honestly I'm not mad lol. But this is the only show I even enjoy listening to previous episodes. Sleepaway Camp just doesn't get old.

I've been finally getting to movies that are on Amazon Prime and Netflix from old episodes and I AM TOO POOR FOR ANOTHER STREAMING SERVICE

I am dying over Oliver right now. He's the cutest podcast guest I've ever heard!

I never ever EVER thought that of you or Cameron! Seriously I like that y'all disagreed with me! It means that maybe I really truly am over-analyzing that role, because y'all didn't see Edna as joke! There are sooo many things I do love about the musical but I just had the misfortune of seeing the John Waters movie first and keeping that close to my heart lol. Both of those songs are so damn catchy but I'll always love You Can't Stop the Beat the most! We sang it in high school so it's got a special place in my heart lol.

Thanks! I hope I do too! Honestly I don't know everything lol. I may be a bi girl but I still have white cis privilege as well so there's a lot of things I will never be able to understand. Clearly I try to speak up for all perspectives lol but if I come off as a know-it-all bitch please know that I am also not trying to come from that kind of place.

You're very right. I think I'm putting some putting some of my own feelings about representation, and things I heard around the time this came out, in to the role. I do feel like that's exactly what Waters was trying to do. Force the world to realize that these kind of people exist and they're normal. I mean it's not the problem with cis gendered men playing the role, if we're being technical then Divine, Eddie Izzard, and Delta Work are all cis gendered men who put on women's clothes for either their own satisfaction or entertainment purposes. Still I do think you're right and I'm not thinking about it at the right angle. I think what I was trying to say all along was that John Waters gave Divine the chance to be in that role in 1988 and that really was groundbreaking. She wasn't just playing the part of a woman because Divine genuinely loved wearing women's clothes. But to me, yes while it still is normalizing the man in a dress role, Travolta didn't feel as impactful because at the end of the day we know he took the dress and the fat suit off and went home. Am I overthinking it? Damn fucking straight because that's what I always do lol. To your point though about cis gendered men playing these kinds of roles (and I guess cis gendered women playing masculine or male roles), yes and no. This is really where things can get a bit blurry in fact. There are a crazy amount of LGBTQ+ actors out there who get turned down for roles time and time again and then they get handed to people like Eddie Redmayne and Jared Leto, who were both showered with praise when I felt like they're performances were both extremely mediocre compared to other things I've seen in recent years. And then we have on the other end people like Laverne Cox and Jamie Clayton who are transgender and play transgender and are amaaazing in their respective shows! Movie studios don't seem to want to give them a chance to play these kinds of roles. Someone once said that would that really be considered acting, though, and like I'm blown away at how fucking stupid that question really is. Straight cis people play straight cis parts all the time and no one asks them whether or not they're acting. LGBTQ+ people play straight parts and no one throws Oscars at them (like lbr here Ellen Page should get an award for acting like she was in love with Michael Cera.) And even still actors like Louie Anderson and Jeffrey Tambor are both amazing in their respective roles as well. I think the difference is here that these shows and actors respect the communities they're representing. Transparent has a ton of LGBTQ+ people actually working for the show and you can honestly see it on screen whether the lead actor is cis or not. It's a beautiful show! Anyway I got really off topic there and probably just made zero sense! John Waters would probably tell me to stfu about it cause it's his intellectual property and that's that lol. (I also apologize for any typos and things that genuinely just don't make any fucking sense because I've been up since 5:30 with a terrible cold and I can't take nyquil cause I'll sleep through my work alarm)

They are definitely very different things. I think I'm genuinely over-analyzing the whole thing lol. That being said, I think I would cast a drag queen, like Delta Work, for the role, or maybe someone like Eddie Izzard, who is very out about his cross-dressing. Probably not specifically Eddie because I don't know how good his Baltimore accent is lol but someone like him would be my choice. Maybe that makes it gimmicky maybe it doesn't idk. I just felt a tie to the casting of Divine in the 88 movie and maybe that was the young queer girl finding solace in these John Waters classics where everything was out of the norm for its time.

I will relent that the character development in the musical is more satisfying but I still think I prefer Divine in the role. Travolta really did give it his all and not once did I feel like he wasn't taking the role seriously, but in the actual casting part I didn't get the sense that the studio understood what Waters was trying to do with Divine. Also maybe it's because when this came out I have very clear memories of everyone talking about how John Travolta is playing a woman like it was the biggest damn deal ever (like how they still do when a straight cis person play trans or gay/lesbian and even if they aren't great actors they get an oscar thrown at them for being so brave) and honestly I didn't think it was that big of a deal? He's just playing the part he was casted to play. But it felt like people were seeing this typical "man's-man" in a fat suit playing a female role and acting like it was funny. I really don't have anything bad to say about him but just the choices made in the casting and writing of the character. Seriously that meat thing really was rough. Like a modern example that I love is Louie Anderson is Baskets. It could EASILY go to the "oh it's a man in the dress" kind of jokes but he's just playing Zach's mom and fucking kills it every time. Also the musical movie is extremely faithful to the Broadway version so I guess I can just say all my issues lie with that lol. But yeah I think that because I feel more tied to the original over the musical it will color my opinions about everything lol. Believe me, I am happy that y'all disagree with me! I don't want people to look at Edna like she's a joke.

That's one of the issues I have with the musical over the original. I remember seeing that and being rather angry that they were sugarcoating the bull shit black students went through when the schools were finally integrated. I agree that Queen Latifah's Maybelle is a much stronger character in the musical but I still feel like the message as a whole was stronger in the original. John Waters did not feel the need to sugarcoat anything while still keeping it campy and fun. I also think they very much play Edna's weight off for laughs throughout the musical as well as the whole "man in a dress" aspect. When it was Divine it wasn't just a man in a dress. Divine was a known figure for cross-dressing and to have her in that part was groundbreakingly amazing. To me, John Travolta being in that part shows how little our society understands the LGBTQ+ community. Divine wasn't there for laughs, but it felt like Travolta was. There is a sort of detention during school hours. You can have lunch detention or ISS (In School Suspension) as punishment during school.

I still have yet to complete the 365 challenge but c'est la vie. I got 144 new this year. But I did finish my 52 films by women challenge! 5 of those ended up being in my top 20 for 2016! I'm also on letterboxd but I'm determining whether I want y'all stalking me as well

(i've only ever seen Halloween & Big Trouble...)

And Halloween Also The Guest

I started watching Escape from LA while working (shh don't tell my boss but come on it's Friday and the end of the year and I'm bored out of my fucking mind). My first thought is that if this was set in 2017 rather than 2013 then this is 100% believable and I would be on board.

I got that dream! When I was not cool with the ignoring of the black face in the Star Wars Holiday Special (which I'm still not 100% convinced that's supposed to be silver) Paul got real riled up lol.

Omg was that the EllenM that called in!? ELLEN IF SO YOUR VOICE IS SO LOVELY!

My heart is absolutely broken for Billie right now

FUUUUCK THIS YEAR