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Cameron H.

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    Watched it this morning, and you're right, this is the version to watch. Funny story about it though, since I was watching so early in the morning, I had to put closed captioning on. It which was like reading the ravings of a Dadaist poet suffering from syphilis. Here's a brief excerpt:

     

    ..."little rest of the software is a piece for since these arms of mine at seven years pistol now some nine months wasted they've used their dearest action in the tented field little of this great world can I speak more than pertains to pizza broil..."

     

    But seriously, all I ever want to talk about is "pizza broil."

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  2. I know this was brought up in Taylor Anne's Buzzfeed article, but not only is the Bookseller running his story in a town full of illiterates, but he is also just giving away merchandise to his only customer!

     

    This guy is minutes away from getting tossed into Debtor's Prison...

     

    BTW--I haven't had a chance to rewatch this yet, but plan to do so soon. I do love it though!

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    Hey Cameron, since the genie looks like it's out of the bottle in regards to the discussion beginning, maybe we should move the discussion thread up to today? Otherwise Taylor Anne and Fister will post all their excellent insight in this thread and the discussion thread will be less rich. Just a thought...!

     

    I had the same thought actually. As long as there are no objections, I'll go ahead and make a thread in a little bit. I think enough people have seen it recently to get the ball rolling, and the rest of us can catch up when we can. Sound good everyone?

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  4. I'm down with Cam Bert on Kurosawa. I have my first classic film suggestion already queued up. Can't wait to get going on it!

     

    Last night, I literally set a reminder up for December 1, 2017. Unless you all want to get this going sooner... I'm game, but I figured between keeping up with HDTGM and Musical Mondays, asking for another movie thing would be too much.

     

    In the meantime, everyone should totally go out and watch Some Like it Hot.

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  5. I also still like this movie, I just think theres alot wrong with it.

     

    Also I'll be disappointed if no one gives me shit for using the phrase "beat poetry song", because i've earned it.

     

    I mean, you're not wrong, and if this were a more earnest Rom-Com, I'd be right there with you. But the movie revels in its absurdity, and because of that, it makes it almost bulletproof. Two grown men go to Alcatraz to talk about their love life because that's an absolutely bizarre thing to do--and if I really wanted to get pretentious, because it represents Charlie's feelings of being "trapped" when he's in a committed relationship.

     

    Also "beat poetry song?" Really?

     

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  6. Dudes and Dames, all this Literature Discussion in a message board that's supposed to be about bad movies but in this case is about a classic Disney animated musical is.... EXACTLY WHY I COME HERE. I love you, my internet brethren.

     

    Oh, this is the best! Sitting here watching Voltron with my boys (who should be asleep) while discussing the Bard with you all here (and Letterboxd)

     

    Oh, and we love you too, Quasar!

     

     

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    Good to know that because I had a chicken sandwich for lunch I should just stop advocating for the correct treatment of living animals.

     

    Of course! That's why every time I eat a burger I find a puppy to kick afterward--just so these uppity animals know who's boss.

     

    I love living in a binary world! ;)

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    Well, don't forget that Roderigo's dead, Othello's dead, Desdemona's dead, Emilia's dead. Cassio's the only surviving player, and he doesn't have all the details of the conspiracy, only that Rowdy Roddy messed up in trying to kill him, and Othello's own confession. He's withholding details of why from the authorities, but of course we as the audience have more details than the arresting officers at that point. So whether 'what you know, you know' is for us, or the people on stage who don't have all the same information, that's a directorial choice. He's not about to give details about the strawberry hanky or Bianca or the scheme against Cassio. All you need to know is that the people who needed to be dead, are dead, but I'm not going to solve the mystery for you about why Othello killed her. To everyone (except the audience), they have no single clue about how Othello goes from doting husband to murderer in two days, so I think it's more directed that way.

     

    He's also refusing the opportunity to repent. That's important.

     

    Well, fuck. I guess I know what I'm watching at 5AM tomorrow. Thanks a lot, Cakebug!

     

    Get tupped, bro. ;)

     

    P.S. I know you're right. Blame my Literature background for trying to find five different meanings behind every comma.

     

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    No, you're not wrong at all about the silence. Iago absolutely wins in the end. I always liked Welles' film adaptation that showed Iago being hauled up the side of the castle in a tiny cage, presumably to starve to death for his treason. The film started that way, then flashed back to the reason he's in the cage.

     

    One thing I think you're maybe a little off about is the point about presumed subtext: there's no subtext in Shakespeare. We can interpret any way we like, but ultimately the characters tell us what they'll do and why they'll do it, and anything else is guesswork. From what we can glean, Iago has an unhappy marriage, an unfulfilling military career, has been passed up by an "arithmetician" in Cassio, and has seen his boss's focus go from war to women. He's lashing out at the injustice of the world in front of him, and uses Roderigo as his agent of chaos. Because, when he is told that he will now be Othello's lieutenant after Cassio is brought down, and says "I am your own forever", if his whole deal was the promotion, he could stop there, and there's no need for Desi to die. But he carries it on to its worst conclusion, because he's the kind of man who wants to see the world burn (insert Michael Caine gif)...

     

    I get what you're saying. However, from my limited perspective, when I hear one character taunt another by saying "what you know, you know" there is the automatic implication that there are things that they don't know, and by extension, things the audience doesn't know. Iago is cursing them, and us (...maybe just me), with uncertainty. Of course, there are things they will never know so why rub it in their face? What do they care? They solved a murder and caught a murderer. It sucks O and D are dead, but as far as the authorities are concerned, they got their man. They could give a damn about his motivations. He's dead regardless. If everything is as it seems, then justice has been served. And if justice has been served, doesn't that make those lines completely meaningless?

     

    However, you're the expert, and I will 100% defer to you. :)

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    He tells us straight up that it's because he was overlooked for his promotion, and also has a quick throwaway that he thinks Othello has been having sex with his wife, Emilia ...

     

    I mean, yeah...that's what the text says, but that's never felt legitimate to me--especially the line about Emilia--which is completely off base. Why would he just assume that? Iago tells us a lot of things, but I think that most of the time he's lying to us/himself. In my humble (non-expert) opinion, the line you quoted also disavows the idea that it was just for a promotion. If that were the case, or if it were as simple as that, he'd just say so. Why not just say, "I didn't like that he got promoted over me. Fuck that guy?" It's too simple. Too boring, And Iago is anything but simple and boring.

     

    Instead, in my mind, the final lines of that play set up a mystery that can never and will never be solved. A play that will never be performed. Killing Othello is great for him and all, but his vow of silence is how he "wins." Words--spoken or unspoken--are powerful. And by keeping his lips sealed, he retains a power that even death can't wrest from him.

     

    At least, that's how I feel about it. I'm probably dead wrong.

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  11. Ask me nothing, I did what I did, and that’s all you need to know. From here on out I say nothing," which very consciously paraphrases Iago's "“Demand me nothing. What you know, you know. / From this time forth, I never will speak word.”

     

    Thank you for reminding me of how much I love Iago as a villain. I did a paper on him in college. I love that slimy bastard.

     

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    Do you have any theories behind his motivations? Racism? Jealousy? Or is he just an agent of chaos?

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    Ooph, in the immortal words of Queen Amidala, you're breaking my heart. Well, not that bad, but I unabashadly adore movies like Casablanca and Citizen Kane. I think I can more easily immerse myself in classic Hollywood than a lot of other periods of cinema. French New Wave? 1970s Hollywood rebel auteurs? Meh. But cool guys smoking while talking to classy dames? I AM INTO IT.

     

    Maltese Falcon is the shit, bro!

     

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