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In Topic: Citizen Kane

Yesterday, 07:22 PM

View PostCameron H., on 21 May 2018 - 06:23 PM, said:

Paul mentioned in the episode that he was initially put off by the film’s structure, and I totally get that. However, what I did like - although I didn’t necessarily appreciate at the time - was the opening news reel. Yes, it was an exposition dump, but when the movie gets going in earnest, it proved to be a sort of Rosetta Stone, allowing the audience to grasp where they are in Kane’s life without interrupting the flow of the movie. By getting it out of the way at the top - in a type of bulletpoint-y way that wouldn’t have seemed entirely alien to it’s contemporary audience - it allowed the movie to unfold more organically and shift its focus to where it needed to be while providing a bit of dramatic irony.


It's a brilliant Brechtian device: foregrounding the actual plot of the movie so that the audience pays attention to the "why" instead of the "what." I'd also note that the movie certainly makes the same point Joel did here:

View Postjoel_rosenbaum, on 19 May 2018 - 03:32 AM, said:

And that's where the comparison sticks with me, Kane is unambiguously American.




It's all right there up front for you, but the movie still feels like a mystery where you're trying to find something. That's what makes it so great.

In Topic: Citizen Kane

Yesterday, 05:42 PM

View PostCameron H., on 21 May 2018 - 12:01 PM, said:

The way I saw it she definitely has some raw talent, but she doesn’t necessarily have the chops - nor the desire - to go pro. It’s like you can be a funny person but that doesn’t necessarily mean you have what it takes to be a comedian.

She was good singer in a “singing for friends in the parlor” kind of way.


Yes, I think that's how it's played. She's a good singer who can carry a tune, but she's not a top-shelf opera singer . . . not even close.

In Topic: Musical Mondays Week 39 Josie and the Pussycats

Yesterday, 05:06 PM

This is my idea of punk rock.


In Topic: Episode 155 - The Fountainhead (w/ Larry Karaszewski)

Yesterday, 04:44 PM

I vote no, mostly because it's just not that good a movie. The technical filmmaking is nice, and I think the actors do what they can with the material, but Rand's script is simply terrible as drama. It makes no sense from scene-to-scene, there are no coherent character arcs, and everything just seems geared towards delivering Objectivist philosophy in didactic and unfettered fashion. That's not a very entertaining approach.

Even taking The Fountainhead purely as an "idea movie," it falls apart because the world of the film has no internal logic or believable connection to the real world. Roark just seems to succeed in between scenes and then we're told that it happened. Would a guy who keeps rejecting decent business offers really be able to do that? Even as a metaphor for filmmaking, it seems like complete bullshit -- nobody makes a movie by themselves. Great auteurs (like, say, the Coen Brothers) succeed because they can make a large team of people commit to a collective goal, not because they do literally everything themselves.

I can see an argument for the book being part of the literary Canon, but the movie doesn't seem to be remembered for much, other than as a footnote in the careers of people like Vidor and Cooper. Easy no vote for me.

In Topic: Citizen Kane

Yesterday, 10:40 AM

View PostThe Triple Lindy, on 18 May 2018 - 03:40 PM, said:

I think Shakespeare is a perfect comparison to Citizen Kane. I go to the theater quite often, and there are many things I would probably rather sit through than Shakespeare, but you can't deny how good most of Shakespeare's work is ... every line is both revelatory of the speaker and well-wrought as an English sentence. Plus his every work is ubiquitous in culture ... you'll find references to it everywhere.


Just to get back to this . . . oh boy yes is Citizen Kane hugely Shakespearean. For most of the supporting characters you can draw an obvious analogue to someone from Macbeth or Hamlet.

Jed = Banquo
Susan = Ophelia
Bernstein = Horatio
Thatcher = Claudius

Fundamentally the story is a Shakespearean tragedy, just updated to a modern setting (or modern to the time it was made) and told in non-linear fashion. Welles certainly had a fascination with that kind of figure, given the Shakespeare movies he made later. It's interesting how he wanted to do "old man" characters even when he was young.