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  1. I can't do either date because Gen Con is this weekend. So, I'll refrain from voting but I'll strongly advise against Tiptoes. I've seen it and I can't imagine, even in a group setting, that it would be a fun watch.

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  2. 9 hours ago, Cameron H. said:

    Tiptoes and Speed 2 are up next. I’ve never seen Tiptoes and I’m not sure if that one would be fun or offensive.

    Do we have a rabbit alternative?

    I've been meaning to try testing some I googled but I've been super busy the last couple weeks. 


  3. 15 hours ago, Elektra Boogaloo said:

     have never seen a Transformers film, and I don’t want Paul to give in. But... It could be funny if HDTGM covered one that wasn’t Revenge of the Fallen. Maybe?

    This is the only funny response but I feel like, as Cameron H said, that the movies aren't really in the right zone for HDTGM. They are bad but it's just a generic, boring terribleness.

    9 hours ago, RyanSz said:

    I too loved this film as a kid.

    I thought this was awesome as a kid, but I am wary to return to it. I also thought Nothing But Trouble was good as a kid.

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  4. 5 minutes ago, Cameron H. said:

    I totally agree. I appreciate the bit, but it’s kind of played out now. I don’t even feel like the Transformers movies are a good fit for the show. They’re bad, but not every bad movie needs to be discussed, you know? The Transformers movies are a two and a half hour migraine.

    I think it sets a really bad precedent that being annoying will change the show in your favor.

    If Paul had been open to it, that would be one thing. He was very clear about not wanting to do it. So, unless the bit gets bigger, let it go.

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  5. 9 minutes ago, sycasey 2.0 said:

    I mean, the fact that badass action heroes now want to discuss pop-culture minutiae on the regular is definitely a debt owed to this film.

    The influence has gotten more diffuse over the years, but in the 10 or so years after Pulp there were a LOT of indie movies clearly trying to copy the Tarantino template (only they just copied the wisecracking gangsters, not the discussions of moral issues).

    I'd also add that Pulp Fiction (and Kevin Smith) blew up independent and lower budget filmmakers. There had been independent film since film began. There had been "outsiders" (which I hesitate to use because he had directed a movie with Hollywood stars and sold multiple scripts before Pulp Fiction came out) before Tarantino. There was a huge look into more independent, outside voices directly because of Pulp Fiction (and Kevin Smith).

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  6. 13 hours ago, Bruce_Wayne's_Butler said:

    I haven't finished the episode yet (about 5-10 minutes left) so maybe this gets answered at the end, but what was up with that girls second opinions song?

    Does she really think Paul's name is John? Or was it a genuine mistake? (Seems unlikely as she repeated it several times).

    Compared to this, the movie makes complete sense.

    I came to the forum for answers but it's barely been mentioned. What is happening? 

    Who is Paul? I only know John Scheer.

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  7. I liked this in the 90s then fell off of it after that. I watched it maybe five years ago and think it's pretty good but maybe not as good as I thought in the 90s. I'd say just for its influence and change of the film industry, it belongs on the list (of course, this means I'd have to include Clerks which I'm not willing to do).

    I have to disagree with Paul that Tarantino films get better on subsequent viewings. I find a second watch much less enjoyable than the first.

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  8. 2 hours ago, theworstbuddhist said:

    As a PKD fan I would not mind a remake that is closer to the source, or at least not a big sloppy mess, but unfortunately most of the film adaptations of his stuff are neither. :(

    I honestly thought that the Total Recall remake was supposed to be closer to the story. Even though I never read it, I could tell that it definitely wasn't. It was just a boring old remake.


  9. 10 minutes ago, doxrus said:

    This film has one of the greatest lines in film history. Late in the story, Uncle Lou talks to his nephew Joe. Their relationship, and Joe's "killing" of his father, have been central themes in the film. Lou says, "Well you know my brother.....[dramatic pause]....[deeper, more dramatic voice]....your father..."  Really? He says this as if it's some sort of huge revelation. Does Joe not realize that his uncle's twin brother is his father? Is he confused about how familial relationships work? Even if these lines are meant for the audience, doesn't everyone on the planet know uncles and fathers and nephews work?

    My favorite line in this was the guy at the funeral who says "Maybe I should have doubled checked the bullets".

    Yes, you should definitely have double checked the bullets before a man was accidentally shot to death and maybe the funeral isn't the place to mention that.

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  10. 43 minutes ago, i'll hold the mike said:

    With its measly box office performance Deadfall debuts at number 2 on the least profitable HDTGM movies list. Only The Room has done worse, and only those two films earned less than one percent of their budget back at the box office

    It's kind of a shame that boxofficemojo.com doesn't keep track of The Room still. There are midnight shows selling out around the country every week. If we're going to keep track of Avatar or End Game re-releases, it seems fair that the presumably millions The Room has technically made should be counted as well. 

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  11. I'm abstaining from voting because I haven't seen this in years. Bir I didn't like it when I watched it for no real reason.

    If we're being objective, I might say it's in the 100 greatest American films but I'll never watched this again. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. So, idk.


  12. 2 hours ago, AlmostAGhost said:

    I liked some of the music and Grace Kelly but mostly found this film a little dreary. I feel like I've already forgotten it and I finished it like 10 minutes ago.

    I haven't watched this yet but I'm sure I'd feel the same. Everyone is saying Philadelphia Story is better but I remember not being too into it.

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  13. 3 hours ago, Cameron H. said:

    @tomspanks just sent me this.

    It looks like rabb.it has shut down. I'm not really sure what that means for our movie nights. This really sucks. I've enjoyed spending these nights with you all once a month watching through these movies. It was a lot of fun to communicate with you all in real time as we watch these shitty, shitty movies.

    Anyway, if anyone stumbles across another site like rabb.it, please let me know. Hopefully we can figure out some way of continuing.

    I did a quick google for rabb.it alternatives and several sites showed up. I haven't actually messed with any of them yet but there's still hope they'll work.

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  14. 30 minutes ago, The_Triple_Lindy said:

    I'm blown away that the Movie Bitches thought they'd go to Detective Pikachu and get Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, which is easily a top 5 all-time fav, but I'm also blown away that they think WFRR? is a kids' movie? Murder, alcoholism, a truly frightening main villain, tons of sexual innuendo and Jessica goddamn Rabbit? It seems more like a nostalgia movie for boomers who grew up with Looney Tunes and Disney and wanted to see them in a more mature setting.

    Who Framed Roger Rabbit -- a kid's movie: Yeah or nah?

    EDIT to add: Not that kids can't enjoy it, because I surely did, but I just don't think Zemeckis really had kids in mind when he made it.

    Who Framed Roger Rabbit is no less a kid's movie than a lot of Dreamworks movies.

    I haven't seen Shrek but I've seen enough that there's a character functionally named "Lord Fuckwad" who built a huge castle because he's "overcompensating." I know it has a lot of jokes that are references only adults will get but aren't necessarily inappropriate for children.

    That doesn't exactly give Roger Rabbit a pass but I guess I don't think it's too bad. Maybe that's just because I watched it a lot as a kid though?

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  15. 15 hours ago, Elektra Boogaloo said:

    Am I the only one ho thinks SPACE JAM was culturally relevant? I am on board with the dismissal of AVATAR. I don’t know if the remake will capture this, but there as this moment in the 90s where kids wore shirts and such Loony Tunes characters with baggy pants and backward caps. I think it started as parody, and then WB embraced it. Which is why it’s about basketball and the soundtrack is all rap and R&B. (I was very sad to delete the soundtrack from my iPod because of the R Kelly connection.) 

    I don’t think it is the Looney Tunes that people really watch for? Like that is fine for kids, but older people like the music and the basketball?

     

     

    I think Space Jam is a huge cultural touchstone for a small window of people probably born between 1982 and 1992. Everyone in that age range seems to have loved it. Everyone outside of that age range was kind of not interested. My recollection is that everyone wearing Looney Tunes shirts had faded out among my age group by the time Space Jam came out. But maybe Space Jam brought that back and I never noticed (or it was more of a middle school thing and I was a too cool high school student then).

    As for Avatar, fuck that whole movie. I think people forget that no one really knew how it would be received before it came out. I watched it the day before it got released and my boss asked me about it. I genuinely told him I thought it wouldn't do very well. I think we can all see that I was right and that it wouldn't go on to be the biggest box office hit of all time.

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  16. 1 hour ago, MarcoMalvado said:

    I was a movie projectionist in the '80s and I showed Jaws 3D. The film was on standard 35mm stock, but each frame was divided horizontally, with the image intended for the left eye on the top and the right-eye view on the bottom. The print came with a bulky, black metal box which fit onto the lens of the projector. This box had mirrors inside which split the picture and superimposed the left and right images and passed each through a piece of polarized glass. The audience would then, of course, wear glasses with similarly polarized lenses, isolating each image to one eye and creating the 3D effect. 

    Here's the problem: the lenses on those old, cardboard 3D glasses were REALLY dark. The polarized glass on the 3D projector gimmick was really dark. It was basically like watching a movie through two pairs of sunglasses. Add that to the reduction in resolution from blowing half a film frame up to full-screen along with the darkness of  the underwater scenes and it made for a very murky experience. Universal actually paid to replace the standard white screen in the theater with a silver one to increase the amount of reflected light reaching the audiences' eyes. It didn't help much.

    It was interesting watching Jaws 3 in 2D and in full brightness. I think maybe the dimness of the theatrical release may have worked in the movie's favor.

    I was a theater employee for 18 years and did a lot of protection work but ly in the early 80s. What kind of foot lamberts were on screen once the rig was on the lens? I want to say Academy standard is currently 7 fL for a 3D projector

    I was around when some article (New York Times??) discussed how 3D movies were so dark around 2011 or so. Because this kind of caught on in the public, we had to start checking monthly and it was the biggest waste of time.

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  17. 2 hours ago, GammaDev said:

    Paul mentioned the early 80s resurgence of 3D in the 80s.  It started with Friday the 13th Part III (IN 3D!).  Paul said the other big 3D movie he remembers seeing was Dreamscape.  But Dreamscape wasn't a 3D movie, so I don't know what Paul saw in the theaters.  There were a ton of 3D movies to chose from (Spacehunter, Metalstorm, Treasure of the Four Crowns), but I'm not sure how any of those could be confused with Dreamscape.  Maybe Paul is conflating Jaws 3D scenes with Dreamscape because they both star Dennis Quad?  Was this 3D version of Dreamscape preceded by an animated short of the Bernstein Bears?

    As for Jaws 3D, this was played a lot on cable when I was a kid (never saw it in the theater).  I always thought it was cheesy and boring.   But just a few years ago, I bought a 3D blu-ray of the movie and found it extremely entertaining.  The bad composites and weird camera angles work great in 3D.  The 3D actually hides the bad special effects, and in the restored movie, a lot of the beach shots are quite stunning in 3D.  The movie knows it is a B-movie and has some of the most fun, intentionally gratuitous 3D effects you'll find in a movie.  Most of the gags and composite shots (like the shark coming at the glass) look completely dumb in 2D, but in 3D they work.  It's a great popcorn movie to watch with friends just to see who will jump at stuff coming at the screen.  The opening titles alone will make most people duck.  It's a guilty pleasure

    I would love to see Jaws 3D in 3D. I saw Friday the 13th part 3 in 3D about 20 years ago at a midnight showing and it really made the movie super fun. It was before 3D got big again making it feel like a novelty and the audience was crazy into it. I know a lot of people say a good movie is a good movie whether it's 3D or not but Friday the 13th in 3D really made me love that movie when, before, I thought it was kind of dumb. I'd assume Jaws 3D would have a similar added fun.

    Edit to add:  if you want a mediocre movie that's great in 3D. Watch The Walk if you ever get a chance. The last 20 minutes are truly an experience.

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  18. 9 hours ago, ol' eddy wrecks said:

    I'm not getting to watching this Some of the movies on the list, such as Touki Bouki and Black Girl, aren't American. (e.g. Touki Bouki is from Senegal - or at least the director is).

    Black Girl is fucking fantastic. I really recommend it.

    Touki Bouki I didn't really get what was so special about it. Other than being the director's first film and coming from a country that had no really film industry up to that point.


  19. 1 hour ago, sycasey 2.0 said:

    Would be interesting if Shyamalan ever wanted to make a movie about the Indian-American experience, but it doesn't seem to be his kind of thing.

    While I'd be fine with that, I would rather have him do what he's doing (partly because he's really hit or miss with me). I think it's vitally important for people of color to also make movies that aren't entirely about the struggle of people of color. Some of my non white friends complain about not just representation in media that isn't explicitly about race but also being told that looking a lot of nerd culture stuff means they are turning white or whatever. So, I think it's nice that maybe the most prominent Indian American director is mostly interested in making horror and suspense movies. If it's not what he wants to make, maybe someone else needs to be the one doing it.


  20. On 6/28/2019 at 1:29 PM, bleary said:

    If I might start a new thread in this conversation: What additional films directed by black filmmakers deserve to be on this list?  For the record, the only other film on the 400 movie AFI ballot besides Do the Right Thing that had a black director is Boyz N the Hood, which is something certainly deserving of consideration.  Since the 2007 ballot, there have been a few that I would think would be shoo-ins for inclusion on the ballot, such as 12 Years a Slave and Moonlight, and likely Selma, Precious, and Get Out would be pushing to make the ballot as well.

    So what other pre-2007 films with black directors should have contended for the list in the first place, and which other post-2007 films should make the next ballot?

    This has come up before but I don't think we've come up with many examples you haven't listed. And even 12 Years A Slave is American in the same way Lord Of The Rings is: predominantly non-American cast, directed by an non-American but produced by an American company.

    A few I'd like to at least see on the ballot would be Within Our Gates, Malcolm X, Mo Better Blues, Hollywood Shuffle, Sorry To Bother You, and (very far outside chance) Black Dynamite. I've never seen it but I always hear The Learning Tree is very good.

    Also, Sixth Sense is directed by a person of color (though not black and I'd say maybe not deserving of being on the list). But everyone forgets it, I'm assuming, because the cast is white.

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  21. 19 hours ago, gigi-tastic said:

    I learned Elvis and his mom shared a bed for like... Ever. Partly because they were dirt poor and partly because she was OBSESSED with him. She used to walk him to school and when he made her stop she would still secretly follow him. 

    I through sheer coincidence happened to see a picture of Elvis' childhood home this week. It looks about the size of a standard trailer home. So, it's conceivable they had no room for another bed if there was more than two people living there.

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