tajedaa 1 Posted July 4, 2014 ok, i have to know if i'm all alone here: Â i thought this movie was amazingly, unbelievably, and frightfully awful on almost every possible level. and thus, a great candidate for HDTGM. but if i'm missing something with this movie, please chime in - from my perspective it honestly ranks among the worst pieces of cinema and storytelling ever created. Â what thoughts do you guys have? Share this post Link to post
seanotron 2307 Posted July 4, 2014 It was definitely a mess. My biggest beef was the ending. Most of these kinds of movies are cautionary tales of some kind, but the ending to this seemed to say, 'Stop being so worried, when grey goo takes over the world just let it absorb you and it will all be fine'. The entire movie suggested we could never actually know if AI Johnny was the 'real' Johnny, but then at the last minute his girlfriend decides he was the real Johnny after all because of...uhhh...reasons. Â In a way, it's the most pro-science, pro-transhumanism movie I've ever seen (out of mainstream Hollywood, at any rate). But boy, if you thought Prometheus had the dumbest smart people ever, you were wrong. These are, hands-down, the dumbest smart people ever. Share this post Link to post
tajedaa 1 Posted July 5, 2014 oh, thank GOD i'm not alone... you've definitely outlined the main existential issues anyone should have with this film! and yeah, the ending kinda put a bow on top of a crap cake. how in the world did she not see this coming when she was on the cutting edge of AI???? you nailed it. Â but what about the practical holes? we can't limit criticism to just plot-driven nonsense. for instance (and boy, would i love a thread to get going with what others thought was hugely problematic with this movie): Â - why is paul bettany's character incapable of stopping AIJD on his own (read: what happened to his own tech brilliance with the "source code" stuff, and with any other abilities he had established in his career/life as a tech guy that he was only able to suggest a solution right at the end), and how is it that his character turned his whole ethical ship around into being such an anti-technologist in the space of, well, *literally* no time at all? 12 minutes of the film, maybe? i mean, hell - if we're all to believe that dealing with the implications of transhumanism (nice analytical word choice, btw) are a key part of understanding this film, then WTF happened with that character? grrrr.... Â - how did they build a (ostensibly) wholly underground and pristinely white server farm in what we can only guess was a matter of weeks, using a skeleton crew of workers? i guess we should look at the grey goo again... Â - if this was intended to be the start of a new world order, why on earth did the writers think it could all be powered by solar energy?? how will the entire networked world be brought down by a force reliant on solar? jeesh... this bothered me incredibly, especially as it was established early on that this AIJD "entity" had access to literally every database ever created, meaning he could have accessed any number of new technologies for power generation that they could have used to change the.... Â oh, screw it. grrrr again! Â don't want to be that dude on the message boards any more than i've already come off as. but boy, this film really angered me to no end! Â thanks, seanotron, for at least giving me the peace of mind that i'm not crazy! 1 Share this post Link to post
jarrycanada 2483 Posted July 5, 2014 Think I am going to have to watch this movie tonight as I love Johnny Depp. but i got that feeling that everything you want to know about this movie is in the trailer feeling, that's not good. Share this post Link to post
jarrycanada 2483 Posted July 6, 2014 Ok I watched this last night it was OK at best. it wasn't really all that bad. it's no over the top but it was a good weekend movie. I like Johnny Depp so I really did enjoy this film, for what it was. I liked it better then the The Lone Ranger. Johnny Depp at times sort of breaks into Captain Jack Sparrow for a min or two during the movie. he can't seem to break away from that character. I got the feeling that Johnny Depp would do Jack Sparrow at kids birthday party's if the money was dropped on the table. he really should just walk away from that character. it feels like just doesn't give a dam anymore and just wants the money. but I still like him in that sold out artist sort of way. Yep I would watch a movie with Johnny Depp counting money..LOL and that movie would end with him smiling and saying thank you to the camara. Â This was really just the maxtrix 4 the beginning isn't it. Â as soon as Morgan Freeman showed up on camara i was like YES! That's what this movie needed. "Morgan Freeman" he was pointless in this movie. 1 Share this post Link to post
SlidePocket 707 Posted August 28, 2017 Cinematographer Wally Pfister's directorial debut was visually striking as always, and the story had potential, but the execution was frightfully poor, and marked another low point in Johnny Depp's career. Share this post Link to post
Soapstef 36 Posted September 14, 2017 This one was so strange. I really wanted it to be fantastic. My expectations were way too high from the get-go. I love the cast so much, but the movie was such a mess. I was confused and worse...I was bored! Share this post Link to post
