Man of Steel (2013)

[inactiveuser501 168]

SpiceGate, where the forum's idealistic Utopia was shattered and we realized we all can have vastly different opinions from the Almighty hosts. We all will remember what we posted when 'Spice World' with Retta was released.

 

Never Forget

[seanotron 2307]

SpiceGate, where the forum's idealistic Utopia was shattered and we realized we all can have vastly different opinions from the Almighty hosts. We all will remember what we posted when 'Spice World' with Retta was released.

 

Never Forget

 

[imhatch 271]

wow didnt read spice world thread because it had 100+ posts yet again proving that reading long things is for chumps

[seanotron 2307]

wow didnt read spice world thread because it had 100+ posts yet again proving that reading long things is for chumps

 

Yeah, you don't want to wade in there. It's dark and scary and there are cobwebs and I hear Dan Aykroyd's penis nose from Nothing But Trouble is loose in there.

[grkpektis 3]

This POS movie definetly deserves to be discussed on the show, theres a scene were zod and his men get transported to the phantom zone on didldo shaped rocket ships. I have two theories why either it was product placement for dildos or snyder thought 300 wasn't gay enough so he had to raise the bar for this movie. I hate almost every scene of this god damn movie even the writer of the story it's based on hates this movie.

[inactiveuser501 168]

This POS movie definetly deserves to be discussed on the show, theres a scene were zod and his men get transported to the phantom zone on didldo shaped rocket ships. I have two theories why either it was product placement for dildos or snyder thought 300 wasn't gay enough so he had to raise the bar for this movie. I hate almost every scene of this god damn movie even the writer of the story it's based on hates this movie.

 

JarryCanada, was this all in the XXX Parody you were talking about? I think we have another case of mistaken movie (That, or "I hate everything the director does" syndrome)

[thestray 361]

Alright, I was about to say no harm done and talk about how the person I saw 'Man of Steel' called it stupid (an even bigger offense to me), but you're forcing me to play my hand.

 

The 'hope' that you keep saying isn't there is present in my view, but I believe it's in a different form. What you were expecting was a Superman movie where the objective was to stop the bad guy and save lives, and I get that from that standpoint, this movie was a downer. But I wasn't viewing it as a typical Superman movie, I saw it as an Origin Story. For me, the focus was on what the reaction was going to be to Superman's existence. And when General Zod threatens Earth unless Superman comes forth, I'm pretty sure the focus WAS saving the planet, as vague as that may seem. But to me, the real triumph was the fact that the military learned to accept Superman as a hero rather than a menace or an alien. He was able to bridge the gap that Jor-El was talking about between humans and Kryptonians. Society now wants Superman in there lives, setting up sequels where people WILL say "Hooray for Superman!" THAT is the hope I got from the movie.

 

I think the person you saw the movie with was right, this movie is stupid. It's a cool but really stupid movie.

 

If the real triumph is that they accept him, that is stupid. Because here's the thing, wouldn't having an origin where Superman actually protects and saves people and exemplifies the hope and greatness and other qualities we expect from Superman better serve that purpose? Wouldn't that serve as a stronger more solid reason for the world to embrace him other than "Well... he IS fighting the bad guys, so... I guess he's not our enemy." ?

 

It is stupid that they accept him. He's made them worse off for being there, he was not even there to protect them where he was needed most (in the city), when he does get to the city where who knows how many people have died he was reckless and endangered/ended even more lives, he never really goes out of his way to save innocents when it seems too inconvenient, and there's not even a beat where he shows he's sorry for what's happened. "He was able to bridge the gap between Kryptonians and humans", and how does he do that? Not by being a great hero, not by being an inspiration, not by showing people hope, he bridges the gap merely by being on the right side of the conflict. That is weak, and stupid. And if any of the humans in this movie have hope now because of Superman, they are stupid.

 

He never proves that the world is better off for having him there, that is stupid. He's the worst thing to ever happen to earth, period, that is stupid. The promises of hope and greatness and being an example to mankind are never paid off in this film, that is stupid. I'd maybe cut it a little slack if it seemed self-aware but it doesn't, it seems stupid and treats the tragedy in the final act like it barely means anything, it doesn't address Superman's shortcomings in this film and how he failed to be the things Superman should be. Even if you've never heard of Superman though, this movie fails as a story on so many levels, and gives us a main character who while played well by Cavill isn't really about anything. He has very little character development in this film, makes no big choices on his own (every significant choice he makes is dictated by others; Pa Kent/Jor-El/Zod), and is not shown to really learn anything.

 

People who loved it seem to be bending over backwards to justify things that the film itself doesn't take the time to justify. "Well at least they accept him now, that's hope right there.", or "This movie wasn't about Superman actually being able to save people and stop the bad guys, it's about acceptance" or "Well at least not EVERYBODY died, only roughly thousands, so that's a pretty big triumph"... This movie, a Superman movie of all characters, has significantly lowered the bar on what it is to be a hero. If there's a hero that shouldn't have people having to make excuses for him, it's definitely Superman.

 

This movie would not make for a good HDTGM episode at all, but not because it's too good to be picked apart, but because there's just nothing amusing about all it's flaws.

[seanotron 2307]

This POS movie definetly deserves to be discussed on the show, theres a scene were zod and his men get transported to the phantom zone on didldo shaped rocket ships. I have two theories why either it was product placement for dildos or snyder thought 300 wasn't gay enough so he had to raise the bar for this movie. I hate almost every scene of this god damn movie even the writer of the story it's based on hates this movie.

 

I'll admit I got a giggle from the dildo ships.

[inactiveuser501 168]

I think the person you saw the movie with was right, this movie is stupid. It's a cool but really stupid movie.

 

I'm just gonna stop right there. There's no point. There is no legitimate point for me to defend this anymore. I loved it, it was well done for me, and as you said, it won't be on the show, so I'm pretty much gonna stop now and go look for a movie that actually needs to be discussed and wait in line for the sequel.

 

[PlanBFromOuterSpace 3138]

wow didnt read spice world thread because it had 100+ posts yet again proving that reading long things is for chumps

That's got nothing on "Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot". If I remember correctly, everyone just stopped talking about the movie and started talking about Woody Allen's filmography for like 4 pages.

[Shannon 2953]

I don't know how many people who like dudes we have here, but I for one haven't been able to think properly since I saw this movie.

 

When he came bursting through that door shirtless and on fire I literally threw up my hands in resignation because I could not handle what I was seeing.

 

I mean look at this shit

 

 

 

I mean...

 

 

I just...

 

 

 

 

He is just unreal. I feel like I'm ruined forever now.

 

 

Yep. Going down

 

[PhillipMedoc 648]

Yay, this means I can take the missus to the movie. It's a nice trend that we're starting to see equal opportunity eye candy in our summer blockbusters. Also glad to see facial hair but especially body hair making a comeback. Like, I'm sure a lot of people are psyched for Thor 2 because whoa Thor but I know at least one lady (maah wiife) who will see anything with Handsome McMuscles in it.

[inactiveuser501 168]

Well, considering that all of these have popped up since Cahill became Superman, you can expect more of him, Shannon.

[Themovieguy12345 9]

Am I the only one that want the 50 shades movie to be PG 13 to mess with people:).

[RyanSz 3140]

Am I the only one that want the 50 shades movie to be PG 13 to mess with people:).

 

No, it has to be PG and done by Disney.

[wakefresh 689]

Am I the only one that want the 50 shades movie to be PG 13 to mess with people:).

 

Women will burn theaters down if that happens. I'm actually sort of interested in how they handle the nudity and sex scenes. Will it still cater to the male gaze due to the censors or will it cater to the -- I think mostly -- female audience they're trying to bring in.

[Shannon 2953]

Am I the only one that want the 50 shades movie to be PG 13 to mess with people:).

 

I don't even want it to happen. I'm upset that people are still talking about it, I really just wanted it to go away.

 

There isn't even enough story to make a compelling movie!! The book is 60% drawn out, repetitive sex scenes that could never be shot for a non-porno. And the story is BULLSHIT. It's not some super sexy story about a woman's journey into BDSM. It's a story of an abusive, wealthy sociopath who takes advantage of a very young virgin. She spends most of the book weeping about how he's so awful and she can't stand to be around him, then he shows up with presents and he's so hot she's like "oh nevermind I love him."

 

 

I just want it to go away so so badly.

[EarBear 460]

 

 

 

I'm not gay, but I can learn...

[seanotron 2307]

Henry Cavill was on Graham Norton last night, and he said Warner Brothers made him sign a contract that said he could only eat the food they provided for the duration of the MoS shoot. He also said it took like 5 months to look like that, and that right after they shot this scene Snyder & his wife bought him a large pizza & a tub of ice cream and he basically went into a food coma.

[inactiveuser501 168]

I'll be frank, most guys who play Superheros are eye candy. All of the Promo Posters of Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man mind as well be captioned with "Dat Ass"

 

I mean...

 

uhhh...

 

I'm done.

 

[wakefresh 689]

 

I don't even want it to happen. I'm upset that people are still talking about it, I really just wanted it to go away.

 

There isn't even enough story to make a compelling movie!! The book is 60% drawn out, repetitive sex scenes that could never be shot for a non-porno. And the story is BULLSHIT. It's not some super sexy story about a woman's journey into BDSM. It's a story of an abusive, wealthy sociopath who takes advantage of a very young virgin. She spends most of the book weeping about how he's so awful and she can't stand to be around him, then he shows up with presents and he's so hot she's like "oh nevermind I love him."

 

 

I just want it to go away so so badly.

 

Oh, damn, I didn't know that. It sounds like some Story of O type shit.

[wakefresh 689]

I'll be frank, most guys who play Superheros are eye candy. All of the Promo Posters of Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man mind as well be captioned with "Dat Ass"

 

 

I agree to an extent, but those movies don't follow the female gaze or there would be a lot more ass shots and gratuitous front nudity.*

 

 

*Exception for the The Watchmen where blue dongers were swinging free.

[Shannon 2953]

*Exception for the The Watchmen where blue dongers were swinging free.

 

 

I saw a Buzzfeed list that was talking about how all of Snyder's movies are "homoerotic" and all I could think was, "I think he just knows how to get ladies to watch his movies."

 

I didn't see "300" in the theatre multiple times because it was the greatest movie ever.

[EarBear 460]

 

I didn't see "300" in the theatre multiple times because it was the greatest movie ever.

 

 

multiple times

 

:-o

[Shannon 2953]

 

I was 18. I had a lot of hormones and free time.