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Episode 69 — Crocodile Dundee In Los Angeles

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Thanks! To my knowledge they never used it, but I sort of fell off listening to WC on the reg so I might have missed it. It seemed like there was a 5 minute window where Howard was cool with covers, but then I never really heard any after those few times.

 

Yeah, Who Charted did chart theme covers a couple of times, and then Howard pretty explicitly said he preferred not to have them.

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A suggestion for Corrections/Omisions:

 

When Croc is talking to the ditsy roller skating girl, she asks him if he's "gay". He tells her something like, "Yeah, I'm happy most of the time." Clearly the "joke" is that Croc doesn't understand what the word "gay" means (in modern terms).

 

But later, when Croc and his buddy are exiting the gay bar, Croc says the place is full of "gay homosexuals." So... once again it proves how his intelligence differs from scene to scene.

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June may have been on to something about her shock over Paul Hogan and Linda Kozlowski's marriage. Roger Ebert said in his review of the first movie, a.k.a. the best of the three, that "All of the cliches are in the right places, most of the gags pay off and there are moments of real amusement as the Australian cowboy wanders around Manhattan as a naive sightseer. The problem is that there's not one moment of chemistry between the two stars."

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I thought the name sounded familiar, but I couldn't remember where I heard it. I think he was on an episode of Harmontown or something.

 

I'm fairly certain I've heard that name and twitter handle regularly on Doug Loves Movies. He must submit categories for the Leonard Maltin game.

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Second Opinion Theme by Jason Mantzoukas feat. MicusFicus (aka Michael Craft)

https://soundcloud.c...tgm-2nd-opinion

 

Download Link: http://bit.ly/147WLpF

 

I love that it ends with dulcet tones, because Jason is right. I am stressed as shit every time I listen to this show.

 

I'm so glad Eddie mentioned the Terribly Emaciated Lions!!

 

But here's my question, were those real lions? Because the gang was talking about them as if they were starved to death lions, but I genuinely thought they were just horrible animatronics.

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A suggestion for Corrections/Omisions:

 

When Croc is talking to the ditsy roller skating girl, she asks him if he's "gay". He tells her something like, "Yeah, I'm happy most of the time." Clearly the "joke" is that Croc doesn't understand what the word "gay" means (in modern terms).

 

But later, when Croc and his buddy are exiting the gay bar, Croc says the place is full of "gay homosexuals." So... once again it proves how his intelligence differs from scene to scene.

 

But wouldn't the "joke" (hell, I'll even say CALLBACK) be that, in the latter scene, he meant "happy homosexuals"? Because "gay homosexuals" would be redundant using the other meaning.

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But wouldn't the "joke" (hell, I'll even say CALLBACK) be that, in the latter scene, he meant "happy homosexuals"? Because "gay homosexuals" would be redundant using the other meaning.

 

You're probably right! When you think of it that way it's actually kind of a clever idea. Unfortunately the basic premise doesn't work for this character and it is executed terribly, but in a comedy with better writing it could have been good. Maybe this is one of those jokes that Paul Hogan "punched up" in his rewrite.

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Pepitone speaks way too slowly and takes way too long to set up a joke for this setting. He's shooting a breach load musket in the matrix gun fight of HDTGM. Seems like a nice dude but he brought down the energy of this one.

Agree

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In Australia, we don't have skunks guys.

 

We also don't books, wildlife documentaries, the internet, zoos, Looney Toons cartoons with Pepe Le Pew or the movie Bambi or really just general knowledge about animals. Truth.

 

But yeah, this movie sucked. Paul Hogan has basically made a career of being the Australian version of when Taco from the League appeared in the Sands of Passion as the American rapper-slash-cowboy-slash-cautionary tale.

Apparently you don't have remote controls either, based on Dundees inability to manage a television set on multiple occasions.

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Once again EarBear, you make me almost as happy as the episode itself. Can i just give you a hundred likes in advance? Maybe send you some beer irl?

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Okay guys seriously, no more posting fake Amazon reviews in hopes of getting yours read. Those things are like orgasms; I need to know that every single one is real in order to enjoy them.

 

Does Paul pick the Amazon reviews before announcing the next movie in the minisodes? Or disqualify the ones posted after the minisode?

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Okay guys seriously, no more posting fake Amazon reviews in hopes of getting yours read. Those things are like orgasms; I need to know that every single one is real in order to enjoy them.

 

Does Paul pick the Amazon reviews before announcing the next movie in the minisodes? Or disqualify the ones posted after the minisode?

 

It's been mentioned a couple times that he only picks reviews that are at least a couple years old so there's no chance it's just podcast listeners screwing with us.

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Radio, Lightning Jack, Daddy Day Camp, and Snow Dogs, too. You could do a month of Cuba Gooding, Jr. movies. For a while there, Cuba just could not say no. It seemed like Cuba Gooding, Jr. was this generation's Michael Caine.

 

He may have turned it around, though. He's in The Butler, which looks like it could be really good.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Let's not write Cuba off too early.

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Okay guys seriously, no more posting fake Amazon reviews in hopes of getting yours read. Those things are like orgasms; I need to know that every single one is real in order to enjoy them.

 

Does Paul pick the Amazon reviews before announcing the next movie in the minisodes? Or disqualify the ones posted after the minisode?

 

He said in an earlier episode that he only choose ones that are several years old.

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The funniest part about this podcast was when Jason was taking jabs at Berry, especially at the end when Berry said something to the effect of "you know how you mess with someone but you don't want anyone else to know that you sleep with this person publicly?"

 

"Oh, yeah, Berry. We all do that. We're all horrible people."

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For anyone in the Hollywood biz, can you answer this question: Berry said that him and his partner's writing fee went up considerably for this movie because Hogan was also helping them write it. Why is that? Why does Hogan's fee affect what two first time writers will get for the movie?

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Gags that hold up from the original Crocodile Dundee:

 

-Mick propping up a dead kangaroo and using it to fire a machine gun at poachers. I found that morbidly hilarious.

 

I feel like in general, Mick was kind of a sketchier dude in the first movie, and was clearly a criminal of some kind. He is shown to be quite adept at hunting and possibly killing people in the second movie.

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For anyone in the Hollywood biz, can you answer this question: Berry said that him and his partner's writing fee went up considerably for this movie because Hogan was also helping them write it. Why is that? Why does Hogan's fee affect what two first time writers will get for the movie?

 

This is pure speculation, but it sounded like if the three of them got co-writing credit, their fee would be split equally three ways.

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Once again EarBear, you make me almost as happy as the episode itself. Can i just give you a hundred likes in advance? Maybe send you some beer irl?

Just let me know if you come to Los Angeles - we can go grab a few beers then.

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For anyone in the Hollywood biz, can you answer this question: Berry said that him and his partner's writing fee went up considerably for this movie because Hogan was also helping them write it. Why is that? Why does Hogan's fee affect what two first time writers will get for the movie?

Their fee wouldn't be terribly high on their own as they were just coming off a failed sitcom, whereas Hogan had hit films and award nominations under his belt, so his fee would pull them up as there's shared compensation rules in Hollywood, cause we're all dirty socialists. Check out pages 3 - 4 of this WGA contact if you're super interested: http://www.wga.org/u...llaboration.pdf

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Their fee wouldn't be terribly high on their own as they were just coming off a failed sitcom, whereas Hogan had hit films and award nominations under his belt, so his fee would pull them up as there's shared compensation rules in Hollywood, cause we're all dirty socialists. Check out pages 3 - 4 of this WGA contact if you're super interested: http://www.wga.org/u...llaboration.pdf

 

Ok, so if Hogan had gotten away with stealing the writing credit, they would have just gotten the studio pay for the drafts they turned in, which would have not been nowhere near as much as they would have gotten otherwise? Or would they have just been ass out?

 

So, the takeaway for me from this story is that a writer should arbitrate everything they do so they can get some type of credit, correct?

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Ok, so if Hogan had gotten away with stealing the writing credit, they would have just gotten the studio pay for the drafts they turned in, which would have not been nowhere near as much as they would have gotten otherwise? Or would they have just been ass out?

 

So, the takeaway for me from this story is that a writer should arbitrate everything they do so they can get some type of credit, correct?

 

I'm not 100% sure, but I think essentially they'd be ass out. I assume they'd been paid for their drafts up to that point, but by whom isn't totally clear. It's possible Hogan was paying them out of pocket / from his production company and banking on the possibility that they were not registering their drafts with the WGA, so he could eventually claim he'd done the majority of the work and they'd have no reason to side with these largely unknown writers. It sounded like Hogan just wanted credit for ego reasons, but I would guess he was also attempting to cut them out of any money from the theatrical release and home video / future residuals. I doubt that ended up being much money, but at that point Hogan likely thought it would be a big hit.

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EarBear, you're amazing.

 

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It's fun to have different episode formats, we had a bunch of live ones in a row. Berry's story was fascinating and hilarious -- the fact that they actually made movie posters with "Written by Pending" is incredible.

 

I'm curious what movie is coming up next, seeing as how it seems FYI polls have actually been inconsidered. Anyone know what the next live show is going to be?

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I'm not 100% sure, but I think essentially they'd be ass out. I assume they'd been paid for their drafts up to that point, but by whom isn't totally clear. It's possible Hogan was paying them out of pocket / from his production company and banking on the possibility that they were not registering their drafts with the WGA, so he could eventually claim he'd done the majority of the work and they'd have no reason to side with these largely unknown writers. It sounded like Hogan just wanted credit for ego reasons, but I would guess he was also attempting to cut them out of any money from the theatrical release and home video / future residuals. I doubt that ended up being much money, but at that point Hogan likely thought it would be a big hit.

 

I get you. So, if Hogan is paying these guys via the production company that is making the movie AND they were just turning in scripts to him and not registering them, then they would have just got the money for the drafts. But the drafts don't have to be by the union rules do they? That's something that the production company and the agent would work out, right?

 

This is very interesting, and sort of depressing. I mean, that's a scary proposition that you have to CONSTANTLY be out on the lookout for people who will steal your work right from underneath you. I have a friend that is a screenwriter in LA, and he talked about registering his spec scripts with the WGA, but I never heard him say anything about the drafts.

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