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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:10 AM

View PostQuasar Sniffer, on 22 March 2017 - 03:59 AM, said:

For me, it just feels very deliberately 90s, in the performances and in the songs. I say that being someone who feels the phrase "timeless" is overrated. Something like Star Trek is something that could ONLY have happened on TV in 1966, design-wise, aesthetically, it's cast, its social message, etc. The X-Files could have only happened in the 1990s, and is very 90s, for the same reasons, and you feel that watching those shows. I love that about those shows and I feel that it adds to their authenticity. They were genuine artifacts of their time and that's beautiful.

Rent just feels... disingenuous and engineered. Like the people who designed Poochie the Dog decided to write a musical. I know that might be an arbitrary distinction, but it's something I feel pretty distinctly while watching it.

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But it was written during the late Eighties/ early Nineties...If you were to find a screenplay written and set in 1950, but decided to film it today, but keep it in the year it was set, wouldn't that be the same thing?
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:14 AM

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But it was written during the late Eighties/ early Nineties...If you were to find a screenplay written and set in 1950, but decided to film it today, but keep it in the year it was set, wouldn't that be the same thing?


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:22 AM

I haven't rewatched it yet (and I mostly want to wait til next week to talk about it) but I saw the original production on Broadway and then the movie as soon as it came out, and the difference a decade made was amazing. The grittiness, youth, and energy of the zeitgeist that was present in the minimalist Broadway production, with music exactly suited to the gloomy 90's, felt strangely out of place with the more wrinkled, much more prosperous-looking original cast in the movie version to me. There are moments (and I will be sure to note them when I rewatch) that feel as clunky and old-fashioned as the synths in The Phantom of the Opera feel today. Maybe Rent needs a Chicago-style reboot/reorchestration to feel less dated. But I'll reserve judgement until I've seen it again.
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:24 AM

View PostCameron H., on 22 March 2017 - 04:10 AM, said:


But it was written during the late Eighties/ early Nineties...If you were to find a screenplay written and set in 1950, but decided to film it today, but keep it in the year it was set, wouldn't that be the same thing?

Or maybe just adapting any piece of literature set in the past? Maybe I should be looking at this as a period piece? I was cognizant of Rent's origins going in, but it still just feels very forced to me. Maybe I am being unfair?
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:34 AM

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Or maybe just adapting any piece of literature set in the past? Maybe I should be looking at this as a period piece? I was cognizant of Rent's origins going in, but it still just feels very forced to me. Maybe I am being unfair?


Not at all. And I'm trying not to talk about it, but that's how I watched it. I chose to view Mark's camera as a time capsule preserving a very specific moment in time.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 06:15 AM

Damn it, I got 2 wrong. Can you do better?

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 06:37 AM

Several people have posted the Broadway filmed performance on YouTube. I'll watch this weekend to compare and contrast.


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 06:39 AM

View Posttomspanks, on 22 March 2017 - 06:15 AM, said:

Damn it, I got 2 wrong. Can you do better?

Gdi I missed 1!

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 10:55 AM

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I should have waited to watch this...
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 11:12 AM

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Why can't it be Monday?

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I should have waited to watch this...

I put it on when I got home last night, was surprised at how many songs I recognized/ knew I have heard before. But I'm not really sure how, because I've never watched this and I don't think I've listened to the soundtrack?
maybe I June'd it, and it left me immediately after watching or it's a repressed memory??

I still did not finish watching..haha. But it was just something I put on-- and was listening to as I was attempting to fall asleep, so I wasn't really trying to watch it.

I'll watch it for REAL soon. But wanted to comment on how crazy familiar the songs were even though I swear I haven't seen it before.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 12:49 PM

Okay, okay. I'm NOT talking about Rent. Okay. I'm just saying, the titular song reminded me of...



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Posted 22 March 2017 - 03:28 PM

What's our stance on School of Rock as a musical?
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 03:32 PM

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What's our stance on School of Rock as a musical?

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 03:35 PM

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What's our stance on School of Rock as a musical?


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Posted 22 March 2017 - 03:59 PM

View PostCameron H., on 22 March 2017 - 03:35 PM, said:

(We would have our first Musical Mondays All-Star with Sarah Silverman...)


And Adam Pascal.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:06 PM

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And Adam Pascal.


Ah, yes. The charismatic Adam Pascal. How could I forget..?
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:29 PM

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Ah, yes. The charismatic Adam Pascal. How could I forget..?

I forgot everything about his character from my last watch except that he's a musician, I think?

Idina Menzel and Tracie Thomas are the only ones that really stuck firmly in my brain because I remember liking the tango song Thomas did with the filmmaker dude about Menzel and the song that was their fight at the engagement party.
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:36 PM

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I forgot everything about his character from my last watch except that he's a musician, I think?

Idina Menzel and Tracie Thomas are the only ones that really stuck firmly in my brain because I remember liking the tango song Thomas did with the filmmaker dude about Menzel and the song that was their fight at the engagement party.


I liked Tom Collins and Angel, and pretty much noth--Wait a second! Stop trying to get me to talk about it!
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Posted 22 March 2017 - 04:58 PM

View PostCameron H., on 22 March 2017 - 04:06 PM, said:

Ah, yes. The charismatic Adam Pascal. How could I forget..?


Some people had a crush on him. Not me, though, nope. :ph34r:

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 07:24 PM

View PostCameron H., on 22 March 2017 - 04:36 PM, said:

I liked Tom Collins and Angel, and pretty much noth--Wait a second! Stop trying to get me to talk about it!

Oh yeah! Angel is really good, too!

And if Tom Collins is the guy I'm thinking, I have a lot of thoughts to share about him.

Idina, tho.
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