Episode 141 - The Shadow: LIVE! (w/ Pete Davidson)

[screa2008 13]

I think that they touched upon the fact that it's ridiculous that the Shadow needs a disguise in the episode, but I'm curious why when Lamont puts on that red scarf his face changes entirely! It's like Alec Baldwin turns into a fatter Billy Baldwin, a.k.a. Daniel Baldwin...

[screa2008 13]

Also, in every scene with Penelope Ann Miller, if you imagine Alec Baldwin as the scout leader from SNL it's 1000 times creepier (and the Kenny G-esque score makes more sense...)

[Sun Tzu Said That 32]

The only way having a disguise makes sense at all is if it's too much exertion on Lamont to maintain his mind-clouding abilities for too long. After the opening fight as The Shadow, he looks worn out. That could have been from his powers or it could have been from beating up some gangsters in front of an innocent mat painting. If there was ever a mention of the toll his powers might take on Lamont, it would have helped explain why he was caught so ridiculously easy and might have actually given his fight scenes some real stakes and tension.

[firsttimecallerlongtimelistenr 3590]

i'm trying not to watch movie trailers these days but sometimes you gotta make an exception

 

[firsttimecallerlongtimelistenr 3590]

... exceptions ...

 

[RyanSz 3140]

Question:

 

I don't know if this was brought up or I just blanked it out, but why does Baldwin need the disguise when he can mind trick people in either not seeing him or completely forgetting about him?

[Sun Tzu Said That 32]

Question:

 

I don't know if this was brought up or I just blanked it out, but why does Baldwin need the disguise when he can mind trick people in either not seeing him or completely forgetting about him?

 

A secret this movie took with it to its grave.

[DieFledermaus 12]

Lamont's uncle says "after the war, you disappeared for 7 years and i said nothing". the war has to be world war1 which ended in 1919. so the movie takes place after that, but before the beginning of the great depression in 1929. my theory is that after the war, Lamont is feels so guilty of watching his friends die, and his love for killing that he cant return home. instead he travels to tibet to become a warlord. this movie must take place between 1926 and 1929. therefore Shiwan must have trained under Tulku durring these years. he kills his master before finishing his training having to rely on outside sources of power like his ancestors burial casket and tibetan tapestries to "give him a boost".

[ThatGermanDude 0]

The whole idea that Shiwan is the last relative of Genghis Khan is pretty funny, because Genghis Khan actually has one of the biggest lineages in the world. 0.5% in the world are related to him. That's 16 million people. So Shiwan isn't special at all.

 

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/08/1-in-200-men-direct-descendants-of-genghis-khan/#.V5TlJuhCRSA

[Sun Tzu Said That 32]

he kills his master before finishing his training having to rely on outside sources of power like his ancestors burial casket and tibetan tapestries to "give him a boost".

 

It's also possible that his training was completed just fine, but the act of clouding minds puts considerable strain on the user. Shiwan just found a way to recharge his batteries. This would explain Lamont only using his abilities when absolutely necessary and relying on a disguise when he's The Shadow. The movie definitely gives you the impression that Shiwan is much more knowledgeable about these powers than Lamont is.

 

It would be interesting if Lamont only survived the war due to his latent psychic abilities and had to watch every "normal" comrade around him dying in the course of battle. Wondering why you were the only one who never seemed to be shot, much less seen by the enemy while everyone else got mowed down is enough to make anyone run off to Tibet.

[jarrycanada 2483]

MY COLLECTION OF THE SHADOW POSTERS.

 

 

 

YOU TALK THE TALK, BUT DO YOU WALK THE WALK!

 

 

AND THE BEST ONE FOR LAST!!

 

 

HE JUST WANTS A MOMENT OF YOUR TIME.

[Prezzydent 11]

First time poster here, I'm just not much of a forum guy but love bad movies and pinball machines.

 

A peripheral aspect of this movie is that the pinball machine is considered one of the best and most rewarding ever made and has some very cool/unique features. One of the only things that hurts the desirability of the machine is the property, which people see as a bad movie. Unsurprisingly this is exactly the same with the Congo pinball machine.

 

[RyanSz 3140]

MY COLLECTION OF THE SHADOW POSTERS.

 

 

 

YOU TALK THE TALK, BUT DO YOU WALK THE WALK!

 

 

AND THE BEST ONE FOR LAST!!

 

 

HE JUST WANTS A MOMENT OF YOUR TIME.

 

You forgot about Michael Baldwin from the Phantasm movies and is also a practitioner of Eastern Mysticism in real life, so he might actually be The Shadow.

 

First time poster here, I'm just not much of a forum guy but love bad movies and pinball machines.

 

A peripheral aspect of this movie is that the pinball machine is considered one of the best and most rewarding ever made and has some very cool/unique features. One of the only things that hurts the desirability of the machine is the property, which people see as a bad movie. Unsurprisingly this is exactly the same with the Congo pinball machine.

 

I noticed that as well with pinball machines, the best ones were usually based around the shittiest properties. Last Action Hero and Demolition Man are still two of my favorite.

[jarrycanada 2483]

 

I noticed that as well with pinball machines, the best ones were usually based around the shittiest properties. Last Action Hero and Demolition Man are still two of my favorite.

 

really god dam angry that no one has made a Sasha Gray pinball machine! That would be amazing!

porn and pinball it just works!!! Ron Jeremy Pin Ball machine! "DO her!!!" and then later it would say "More Balls!!!" if you don't get that shot right it says "blue balls!" and a endless amount of balls would fly out of the machine! "viagra mode actived!"

 

and the flippers are like 12" dildos. Ohh god I could so see that in my head.

 

I now know my calling in life is to build and make adult entertainment pinball machines!

 

I am so so sorry everyone.

 

ohh my god that's real,, there is the shadow pinball game.!

 

[jarrycanada 2483]

message board game, who can find the worst, the worst pinball game of all time. we will rate by likes.

 

I am placing my bets with dolly!

 

 

Mind you Paul Scheer may want to get him self this one.. trust me on this one june will love this.

 

 

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!

 

mind you we may already have a winnner!

 

 

You've got a friend for life if you find me a showgirls the movie pinball machine.

[RyanSz 3140]

 

really god dam angry that no one has made a Sasha Gray pinball machine! That would be amazing!

porn and pinball it just works!!! Ron Jeremy Pin Ball machine! "DO her!!!" and then later it would say "More Balls!!!" if you don't get that shot right it says "blue balls!" and a endless amount of balls would fly out of the machine! "viagra mode actived!"

 

and the flippers are like 12" dildos. Ohh god I could so see that in my head.

 

I now know my calling in life is to build and make adult entertainment pinball machines!

 

I am so so sorry everyone.

 

ohh my god that's real,, there is the shadow pinball game.!

 

I know there was a Playboy machine and there may have been a Penthouse one but I've only seen digital versions online so it may just be a video game. I can't remember but when I took the tour of the Moonlite Bunny Ranch I believe that they had a custom pinball machine dedicated to Ron Jeremy, as he has a permanent bungalow residence there for whenever he's near Reno.

 

As for their being a Shadow pinball machine, of course there was as since it was a media property released in the 90s it had a pinball machine as well as a toy line from Kenner. I mean who could forget the Philadelphia line of toys and games?

[RyanSz 3140]

message board game, who can find the worst, the worst pinball game of all time. we will rate by likes.

Mind you Paul Scheer may want to get him self this one..

 

 

 

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!

 

mind you we may already have a winnner!

 

Okay the Royal Rumble one is FANTASTIC, great mechanics and fun to play. By far the worst I've ever played, this one at the Las Vegas Pinball Hall of Fame, is Orbiter 1. The playing field is the bumpy surface that is supposed to be a distant planet and the ball is a landing satellite/drone, the game fucking sucks.

[jarrycanada 2483]

[EllenM 943]

 

I watched this for the first time today. The only time I cried was when Rey and Leia hugged while everyone else is celebrating. Just two women saying everything and nothing, that's all I needed.

[Prezzydent 11]

 

PAPA is great. Actually really useful if you like pinball. The promo videos are better though. They did them for most Bally Williams.

 

[Cameron H. 23786]

message board game, who can find the worst, the worst pinball game of all time.

 

I couldn't tell you whether it's good or bad, but the idea that they thought a Maverick (1994) pinball machine would be a huge draw is pretty hilarious.

 

[Prezzydent 11]

 

I couldn't tell you whether it's good or bad, but the idea that they thought a Maverick (1994) pinball machine would be a huge draw is pretty hilarious.

 

 

Maverick is just mediocre if I remember correctly. Also, it's not that they thought it was a huge draw but more that there were four major pinball companies operating in the 1990s and after a decade of slow sales the late 80s saw a pinball renaissance. Then Addams Family hit as the most successful machine of all time, followed by Twilight Zone as the second. This cemented that IP mattered and to a degree meant you had free advertising to coincide with the movie as well as not having to design a theme. Add to the fact the games were developed and made concurrently with the film IP and usually released within 6 months of the theatrical debut for maximum impact and you have a game made by people who have never seen the movie let alone know how successful it will be.

[RyanSz 3140]

 

Maverick is just mediocre if I remember correctly. Also, it's not that they thought it was a huge draw but more that there were four major pinball companies operating in the 1990s and after a decade of slow sales the late 80s saw a pinball renaissance. Then Addams Family hit as the most successful machine of all time, followed by Twilight Zone as the second. This cemented that IP mattered and to a degree meant you had free advertising to coincide with the movie as well as not having to design a theme. Add to the fact the games were developed and made concurrently with the film IP and usually released within 6 months of the theatrical debut for maximum impact and you have a game made by people who have never seen the movie let alone know how successful it will be.

Pinball machines were actually great for marketing in comparison to video games, which almost always sucked ass. The difference between the two was with video games a publisher was usually cannibalizing a previous game and rushed it to market to meet the release of the movie, usually with disastrous results. Pinball machines on the other hand, required only a small amount of animation on-screen, a couple different pieces of art needing to be made for the back wall and the main play field. Then you add in a constant stream of fifty cents in from kids every day at multiple locations, and you had yourself a money maker. The only issue pinball makers really had to worry about were places the ball could get stuck and causing a tilt.

[RyanSz 3140]

 

I couldn't tell you whether it's good or bad, but the idea that they thought a Maverick (1994) pinball machine would be a huge draw is pretty hilarious.

 

Didn't know if it was a draw, but it was pretty fun to play.

[EllenM 943]

On a different note, it's my birthday and I'm going to see The Killing Joke tonight!