Musical Mondays Week 66 The Fighting Temptations

[AlmostAGhost 2718]

Was this actually Cuba?

[WatchOutForSnakes 807]

4 hours ago, AlmostAGhost said:

Was this actually Cuba?

Didn't he do that in jerry Maguire? I am again puzzled by his bad dancing afterward! 

[EvRobert 1684]

i honestly think this movie, much like Blues Brothers 2000, was built around the songs/musicians. Like they went "well we can get X, Y, Z musicians and songs" and built a story around it and didn't care if things didn't make sense. 

[Cam Bert 8145]

Did anybody else think Steve Harvey also ran the funeral parlor as it was the only ads he ever read?

[AlmostAGhost 2718]

ARE YOU SAYING STEVE HARVEY IS NOT ON THE UP AND UP

BITE YOUR TONGUE

[EvRobert 1684]

30 minutes ago, Cam Bert said:

Did anybody else think Steve Harvey also ran the funeral parlor as it was the only ads he ever read?

I'll sign off on this

[grudlian. 4725]

1 hour ago, EvRobert said:

i honestly think this movie, much like Blues Brothers 2000, was built around the songs/musicians. Like they went "well we can get X, Y, Z musicians and songs" and built a story around it and didn't care if things didn't make sense. 

Which makes sense for Beyonce but was Montell Jordan a thing anymore?

He hasn't had a hit since maybe 1998 unless he had a song after Let's Ride that I don't know. I know he wrote hits for others but I don't think he was a big name outside of the industry anymore.

[EvRobert 1684]

3 minutes ago, grudlian. said:

Which makes sense for Beyonce but was Montell Jordan a thing anymore?

He hasn't had a hit since maybe 1998 unless he had a song after Let's Ride that I don't know. I know he wrote hits for others but I don't think he was a big name outside of the industry anymore.

I know Ignition (Remix) I can still play almost every weekend at wedding dances and people love it. *shrug* 

[grudlian. 4725]

1 minute ago, EvRobert said:

I know Ignition (Remix) I can still play almost every weekend at wedding dances and people love it. *shrug* 

Was Montell Jordan involved in that? I figured that was all R. Kelley. 

[Cameron H. 23786]

2 minutes ago, EvRobert said:

I know Ignition (Remix) I can still play almost every weekend at wedding dances and people love it. *shrug* 

Isn’t that R. Kelley?

[EvRobert 1684]

Just now, grudlian. said:

Was Montell Jordan involved in that? I figured that was all R. Kelley. 

So I'm an idiot, I was thinking of This Is How We Do It

[Cameron H. 23786]

1 minute ago, grudlian. said:

Was Montell Jordan involved in that? I figured that was all R. Kelley. 

[gigi-tastic 2322]

Is this town next to the Footloose town? I don't know if it's because we rarely went to church or what but to run a single mother out of town for singing secular music seems a *bit* extreme yes?

[gigi-tastic 2322]

On 5/20/2019 at 6:24 PM, Cam Bert said:

 

This is the greatest thing I have ever witnessed. I want this played at my funeral with no context

[gigi-tastic 2322]

A very happy belated birthday to @Cameron H.!

[EvRobert 1684]

14 hours ago, gigi-tastic said:

Is this town next to the Footloose town? I don't know if it's because we rarely went to church or what but to run a single mother out of town for singing secular music seems a *bit* extreme yes?

I used to heavily be involved in church culture, including managing a Christian bookstore. A friend of mine asked me to hold a case of beer for him while he went to go and grab something else and I almost lost my job because of it.

[Cameron H. 23786]

19 hours ago, gigi-tastic said:

Is this town next to the Footloose town? I don't know if it's because we rarely went to church or what but to run a single mother out of town for singing secular music seems a *bit* extreme yes?

Yeah, that’s pretty extreme, but I think it depends on the church. My mother has worked for churches since I was 10. Four separate churches (same denomination) and each really had their own personality. Some were really loosey-goosey and some were pretty conservative. And while none of those churches ever ran anyone out of town, some of the stricter ones will certainly let you know when you’re not wanted. So, run you out of town? Probably not. Run you out of the church? Yeah, I can definitely see that.

[gigi-tastic 2322]

On 5/22/2019 at 12:51 PM, EvRobert said:

I used to heavily be involved in church culture, including managing a Christian bookstore. A friend of mine asked me to hold a case of beer for him while he went to go and grab something else and I almost lost my job because of it.

Wow. I mostly know Catholic church's and according to a friend whose mom works for one of their local Catholic colleges the priests drink heavily at any and all banquets or events. 

[gigi-tastic 2322]

On 5/22/2019 at 5:27 PM, Cameron H. said:

Yeah, that’s pretty extreme, but I think it depends on the church. My mother has worked for churches since I was 10. Four separate churches (same denomination) and each really had their own personality. Some were really loosey-goosey and some were pretty conservative. And while none of those churches ever ran anyone out of town, some of the stricter ones will certainly let you know when you’re not wanted. So, run you out of town? Probably not. Run you out of the church? Yeah, I can definitely see that.

I mean I guess if the town was small enough and the church was THE social place it could happen if they decided she wasn't welcome in the church. I'm just confused because now I want to know if the entire congregation is banned from listening to secular music? Like is this the most Christian town ever??

[Cameron H. 23786]

On 5/20/2019 at 1:45 PM, tomspanks said:

What does the title mean?  I thought maybe the family's last name was going to be Temptation.

ETA: I know the choir name, but WHY

She tells him at one point that “fighting temptation makes you strong.” Everyone in the movie seemed to be fighting temptation of some sort - whether that be avarice, covetousness, pride, etc. I think the name, like their final song, was just to acknowledge that nobody’s perfect, but as long as you’re trying your best, you’re going to be God-loved. It’s a weird thing in churches - which I think the movie portrays pretty well - that they often expect you to be perfect in order to attend church rather attend church in an effort to become perfect. It’s the kind of hypocrisy that not only drives people away, but gives the excuse to sometimes look down on people (e.g. “I don’t like homosexuality. I go to church, which makes me perfect, which means I’m right and I don’t need to listen to you at all.”)

Did anyone else have an issue with them kicking Paulina out of the group at the end? I get that she was awful, but it felt very bully-ish the way the did it, and not very “Christian.” I think it would be far more emotionally satisfying to see her won over to their way of thinking, rather than just kicking her to the curb and showing us over the credits that in the ensuing 18 months they somehow came to some kind of understanding.

[gigi-tastic 2322]

So of the two who do you think would win in a choir off:

The Fighting Temptations of the choir from Joyful Noise? I mean on the one hand Beyonce ....but on the other Dolly. Fudging. Parton

 

[Cameron H. 23786]

17 minutes ago, gigi-tastic said:

So of the two who do you think would win in a choir off:

The Fighting Temptations of the choir from Joyful Noise? I mean on the one hand Beyonce ....but on the other Dolly. Fudging. Parton

 

Neither. Sister Act blows them off the stage

[gigi-tastic 2322]

3 hours ago, Cameron H. said:

Neither. Sister Act blows them off the stage

Ah but of course!

[Cam Bert 8145]

On 5/26/2019 at 2:46 AM, Cameron H. said:

Did anyone else have an issue with them kicking Paulina out of the group at the end? I get that she was awful, but it felt very bully-ish the way the did it, and not very “Christian.” I think it would be far more emotionally satisfying to see her won over to their way of thinking, rather than just kicking her to the curb and showing us over the credits that in the ensuing 18 months they somehow came to some kind of understanding.

Considering this is a "Christian" movie that claims "Christian" beliefs, key among them being forgiveness, yes it was harsh what they did with her.

Maybe this is aligning with those "Christians" that believe socialism is evil and wrong because helping the poor and unfortunate is not what their tax money should used for. 

[EvRobert 1684]

Wasn't she back though at the end, the one year later or whatever montage?