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Ok no. Paul she has to tell her friend! Or at the VERY least speak to the fiancee. This is not ok. Being drunk does not absolve this behavior. The fiance *should* be the one to speak with her and talk about his transgression. It's not fair for her to carry that burdon. I'm so sick of holding on to these little transgressions. They weigh on your soul. Her friendship will be tainted by this and she and her friend have done nothing wrong yet their relationship will suffer for it. Worst of all her friend won't know the cause.
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2 hours ago, Cameron H. said:
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On 9/30/2019 at 11:01 AM, Cameron H. said:Okay, sorry. It took me a minute to settle on what I wanted to do. Most of all, since it will be October, I was looking for something seasonal, something (hopefully) fun, and something nobody has seen.
So, without further ado, we’ll be watching:
It is currently available on Amazon. I have not even watched the trailer, so...good luck to all of us
I was unaware someone did Vampire Diaries fanfic and made it a musical
I'm in
How drunk am I going to need to be?
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On 9/30/2019 at 10:59 AM, taylorannephoto said:@Smigg. & @GrahamS. I want to honestly thank the both of you for opening up to us all. I know personally how hard it is to even talk about this, but y'all are doing a good thing (much better than this fucking movie) and we're all here with y'all. My experiences with sexual assault and harassment started when I was just 11 years old, and has continued well into my 20s, so I seriously want to thank y'all for sharing today.
To make an incredibly dark subject light again because I'm sure none of us can deal without trying to make each other laugh I present this.
I just wanted to add I'm also really grateful that @Smigg., @GrahamS. and everyone else feels safe enough to talk about these things here and I'm so sorry so many of us have dealt with such bullshit. I want to say that my personal experience with sexual harassment and assault didn't really start until my 20s but I know that if I really though about it it probably went back much later. There are so many small things we condition ourselves to brush off that if we really let ourselves think about them aren't that small. They can be pretty big.
My lighter note is that it's day two of my favorite week of the year: Fat Bear Week! Every year Katmai National Park has a contest on their Facebook page for the fattest bear in their park. I urge you all to head over for a truly wholesome and bodacious time! I feel like maybe I should call in to let Paul know since he loves the Country Bears and these are also, technically, fat bears out in the country, but I worry that it's too late and he might not get the message this week.
https://m.facebook.com/KatmaiNPP/?ref=m_notif&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic
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Maybe it's just me but did any one else worry about people getting discombobulated and lost in the V.R world? I would very easily get confused by that many miles on miles of weird empty (definitely haunted) hallways and would "wander" around in confusion for who knows how long looking for the room for my file if I didn't "fall" to my death first. Now that I think about it this would 100% give me motion sickness.
On the other hand what a great excuse to slack off from work "Sorry I'm late for this very boring and useless meeting! I got lost in the M. C Escher Hell Scape... Again "
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I go away for a few days to deal with a migraine and I come back to a friendly little buddy! I'm both delighted and worried about the extent I will abuse this new power. Look I'm doing it already. I hedgehog'ed my own post. His name is Gerald and I love him.
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12 hours ago, GrahamS. said:There is a possible cause for Kirk Douglas’ behavior that is briefly described in the article that Electra Boogaloo linked to In the New York Post (once again, the article is called A look back at Kirk Douglas’ most famous sexual conquests, By Linda Massarella, December 8, 2016).
in the article, Ms. Massarella writes how Douglas’ sexual experiences started.
“It began with his English teacher, a Mrs. Livingston, who seduced him when he was 14, he said.”
Ummm, that’s rape. I get the feeling that Douglas might not view it as such, or has talked himself into the belief that it’s proof of his machismo, but at one point he appears to have been a victim.
I’m not saying that this excuses anything he’s done—not by a fucking long shot. But... I’ve worked in a middle school. Any 14-year-old that I know would be severely traumatized by a sexual encounter with their adult teacher. It would warp how they relate to people sexually. Perhaps Kirk Douglas is old-school and superhuman and immune to feeling vulnerable—and I honestly don’t know shit about him, he might be—but it wouldn’t be very hard to theoretically link his experience with his teacher to how he treated women in his life.
And I guess I did just that, as convincingly as I could.
1000%! I just finished watching Fosse/ Verden and the show has a flashback to Bob Fosse losing his virginity to two 40 something burlesque dancers at the theater he used to dance in as a kid. It was heartbreaking and disturbing. It's 10000000% assault. No child can give consent. It really bothers me that our culture sees young boys getting preyed on as a good thing. I can't count the number of times I've heard people joke when attractive female teachers have been caught abusing their male students about how "lucky" that poor kid is.
Also sort of random but have you ever noticed how when they show photos of those women they always seem to use nice pictures? Like photos from social media where they are smiling and pretty instead of their mug shot. They committed a DESPICABLE crime why are you showing them at their best?!?
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5 hours ago, Elektra Boogaloo said:I wanted to thank Gigi-tastic for bringing up that sexual assault does happen to men and that it’s about power and not sex.
I would actually like the forums to weigh in on this. It is only tangentially related to this film but it has bothered me since I heard it. You guys may know that there are sexual misconduct allegations against Michael Douglas, and also that there are also long-standing rumors that Kirk Douglas was a sexual predator (it is alleged that he raped Natalie Wood when she was 16).
When Kirk was honored at the Golden Globes (apparently as a eff you to the ladies wearing Times Up pins), I read some articles about the rumors around him. There is one story that he readily admits to:
Now, obviously, no one likes an anti-Semite and there is some triumph in this. But I was also deeply disturbed with how he used sex as a weapon. Like why not tell her when she’s all hot for you and say, “I can’t fuck you because you are an asshole”. Why do it mid act? It seems like sexual violence in some form.
Am I wrong about this?
This quote from: https://nypost.com/2016/12/08/how-kirk-douglas-charmed-old-hollywoods-finest-beauties/ I can’t find the original article I read it in.
I feel all kinds of disgusted by all of this. I think it's also important that we look at the language used here. He didn't say " You're having sex with " he said " You're being FUCKED BY" which gives him even more power and puts this as an act he is committing not one that is being mutually done by both parties. Also that article was very gross the way he talked about several of the women I'm not so sure what he had would have been seen as a consenting above grade time with several of them.
On the topic of Michael Douglas the survivor of his supposed harassment and abuse had a letter asking about how to fix sexual harassment in the workplace from the California Women's Law Center from 1993 . So around the time this movie was being made or was in post /starting to be advertised.
So... Yeah.
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5 hours ago, theworstbuddhist said:I don't really care how you interpret my post. I wasn't writing about your post, I was writing about the movie, and the point I was making is that a film like this- which made 300 million dollars apparently, and is still discussed decades after it was made - does more harm than good to male victims.
Suffering isn't a contest. The patriarchy hurts everyone, and must be destroyed if people of whatever gender are to be truly free.
I fully agree. I'm sorry, like I said I clearly misread what you wrote.
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52 minutes ago, theworstbuddhist said:I don't think anyone denies that sexual harassment can and does happen to men, but horseshit movies like this don't help, and I don't care for the arguments that try to compare the relatively uncommon suffering and exploitation of men under the patriarchy with the extremely common and usually much more severe suffering of women. It's just not equivalent. Unfortunately there are disgusting organizations claiming to fight for "men's rights" who will use these stats and the testimonies of male victims to push their own sexist, homophobic, and often white supremacist agenda. As someone said on the podcast, this film seems like it would be a real favourite with that crowd, pandering to their inflated sense of victimhood and entitlement.
I agree that this movie is terrible. I also agree wholeheartedly that so called men's rights activists do not give a flying fuck for male survivors or the well being of men in general. For example On International Women's Day many of them demand an International Men 's Day even though that already exists and is November 19. Ironically the day is rarely googled on its actual date. They care about the fact women have a day at all not that they really want their own day.
I also agree that yes women are much more likely to be harassed. I've had several conversations with other female friends about how we do not know *any* women who HAVEN'T been sexually assaulted or harassed including ourselves.
However I don't think that negates the fact this does happen to men as well and those survivors deserve every bit of respect and compassion as their female counterparts. It could just be my reading but it feels like you're saying that because a smaller number of harassment is reported it means less? That what they went through isn't as upsetting because women face worse? Again this could be my interpretation. I honestly don't think you can compare this kind of thing. It's deeply personal and affects each survivor differently. I think that our society tends to fail people who speak out but I really think that we fail male survivors in a unique and horrible way. It's bad enough to not think you will be believed because the system is awful. Even worse when you think people won't believe you because of your gender.
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Ok so let's get to the nitty gritty here. Men can be and are sexually harassed. Much like domestic violence it's 100% something that does happen to men but is not talked about nearly as much as what happens to women. Nearly 1 in 5 ( roughly 17%) complaints to the EEOC are by men.
A survey by Quinnipiac University found 20 percent of men surveyed had been harassed.
While they government does not track the gender of perpetrators researchers say that men are more likely to harass other men then women ( though women can be perpetrators).
The number of men who have reported harassment has stayed pretty steady for the past decade.
The movie is correct in the idea that a lot of sexual harassment is about power. It's also a way to punish people who do not meet the ideal gender norms and for men in particular, those who are not sufficiently like the idealized version of their (perceived) gender.
Many men do not report their harassment much like many male victims of sexual and domestic assault. they feel they will not be believed because we live in a society that thinks only women can be victims.
A 2014 study found that Canadian woman were twice as likely to report harassment Han their male counterparts( 20% vs just 9 %)
To quote a survivor who told his story in this really great article from the Washington Post :
"Funk, 53, said he was at first hesitant to talk about what he said he was experiencing at work.
“ ‘You are a man. You should be able to protect yourself,’ ” he recalled thinking to himself."
But even incredibly "masculine" men can be subject to harassment.
In 2016 Terry Cruz says he was groped by Adam Venit at a party. Venit is a very well known executive who works at William Morris Endeavor. He's not alone. Brandon Fraser claims in 2003 former HFPA president Philip Berk groped him. These are both famous men, powerful in their own right yet they both have stories about harassment.
While this movie is 100% the panicking of rich straight white men in the wake of the Anita Hill Clarence Thomas testimony ( yet here we are in 2019 with another sexual predator on the bench. I'm not going off on that rant) there is a germ of truth in it. Sexual harassment can happen to anyone
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2502
https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/statistics/enforcement/sexual_harassment_new.cfm
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So at the start when Douglas is grilling that guy about if he got the promotion the guy asks him if he's ok and needs a Prozac. I don't think that this movie understands how Prozac works. Not that I'm surprised. Not to *brag* but I was on Prozac and I know for a fact it takes a week( usually 2) to start working. It's not like Xanax or something similar that works instantly. I don't know why but the idea of people just passing out random Prozac to their upset colleagues like fucking tic tacs is both hilarious and worrisome.
Edit: I just started the episode and they also mentioned this. Oops!
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39 minutes ago, kellsndudz said:My dad drew the pic for me because he's cool like that.
1. Brag you have a dad ( sip anytime Zukes says Brag you have...)
2. Please tell your dad that his drawing is wonderful! My favorite part is the Sharknado. Or maybe it's Howard the Duck? Possibly Mac from Mac and Me. There's a lot of great things going on here!
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1 hour ago, CaptainAmazing said:Finally caught up this far in the thread. Yeah, speaking as a serious head trauma survivor, he's going to have some serious problems in the short term that Julia will have to help take care of. In the long term he's probably going to have some low-level memory problems for the rest of his life, and that's if he's very lucky. And like I said, his eyewitness testimony is pretty much the only thing keeping Julia out of jail (see The_Triple_Lindy's post), but he magically remembers everything from 10 minutes before his injury, which I can't say that I could do.
But with all the plot holes and bad writing in this movie (I may have to make an entire separate post on the terrible police work), I can't expect them to know anything about the medical realities of brain injuries. this particular type of sloppy writing is sadly so common that it has two TV Tropes pages: Tap on the Head and Hard Head.
Interesting side note: There's about a 1 in 3 chance that I was listening to an archived HDTGM episode at the time of my accident. If that's the case, somehow figuring out which one it was would help me reconstruct what happened.
I have a math learning disability and in middle school a kid came back to school after finally being rehabilitated enough from an awful atv accident and was in my special math class. He had to relearn how to do everything.
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I just want to say if my fiancee ever failed to believe me when I tried to tell them about something even remotely half as bad as this shit I would leave them in less than a heartbeat. Fuck David. He's the absolute worst, worse than Tessa in my opinion. She at least is mentally ill. He never for a moment is completely convinced that she hasn't done what Tessa says she has. He has no faith in her. Frankly I don't think he has faith in either woman in his life and just thinks deep down bitches be cray and will wait for absolute proof before he chooses who to give his allegiance to.
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I haven't seen all of the movie yet because I'm pretty sure it will cause my anxiety to go haywire so let me know if this is covered: Do they talk about Tessa's divorce settlement? It doesn't look like she is suffering financially. Her mom seems to act like she needs to get her husband back for financial security. I think Tessa wants him back because she refuses to lose anything she thinks of as "hers" and I do think deep down she loved him, in the sense that she loves that he loved her and who he thought she was and their idealized life together. The perfect family kind of thing. I don't think she loves her ex the way most people would see love. It's more the idea of everything.
So my question I guess is what was her divorce settlement like do we think? She's still a partner in the brewery and cleary has a decent house and dresses like an Ivanka clone. Do we think there was a prenup? She's def got alimony right?
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Just now, DrGuts1003 said:I wish the film had been more consistent with its own internal logic. During the first Copper Mountain Brewery event after Tessa gives her speech, one of the other investors’ wives points out to Julia that Tessa won’t even actually take a sip of the beer because she doesn’t want the calories.
But throughout the rest of the film we see Tessa drinking copious amounts of wine. As you can see in the infographic below, while wine does not have quite as many calories as beer, it is certainly not a calorie-free beverage.
We also see Tessa have two margaritas at lunch with Julia. According to nutritionaction.com “Most restaurant chains’ mojitos, Moscow mules, and margaritas deliver 200 to 300 calories. Chili’s Strawberry or Mango Patrón Margarita hits 360. But a classic margarita—tequila, lime, triple sec—in a small glass cuts most of the sugar and hovers around 200 calories.”
And how have we not talked about Tessa vaping yet?!? For a woman so consumed with beauty, she sure has a lot of unhealthy habits.
I feel like we as a society have entered this weird place where wine might be alcohol but not really. It's celebrated to the point where you can find countless things proudly saying that you're an pretty much an alcoholic mother and you absolutely must have your special juice hahaha! It's very weird to observe as the child of an actual alcoholic.
I have no problem with drinking and I drink, it's just the weird way we act about wine. I know it has a lower alcohol content them other forms of alcohol but how much do we think she was drinking a night? At least a bottle right? Girl you have a problem! I mean on top of everything else... Plotting murder probably is more important than a possible dependency on alcohol.
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3 hours ago, Cameron H. said:In the universe of the movie, Tessa is described by the people around her as being pretty much flawless, but during the margarita confessional scene, she describes Julia as being “gorgeous, talented, and effortlessly beautiful.” I guess she’s not so perfect that she can’t come up with a string of three adjectives where two-thirds of them don’t mean the exact same thing, huh?
That being said, I would be pretty impressed if this was intentional flub as a subtle put down of Julia (i.e. refusing to call her intelligent) or as a way of further characterizing her shallow nature. However, without reaction or comment from anyone in the movie, a line that is essentially saying, “You’re pretty, talented, and pretty” comes off pretty lazy, clumsy, and careless.
I feel like the idea of Effortless Beauty is probably something that Tessa covets deeply actually. Everything about her seems so calculated and planned. The notion of being one of those women who can just throw on literally anything and truly get away with looking stunning .Not to be confused with the cleverly designed "messy" chic look I've seen going on to prove women are the Effortless Beauty but actually take a surprising amount effort. The steps needed for the messy bun alone are shocking. I think that the compliment was totally back handed but it's something she wants for herself. She wants to be effortless and free. The years of having her mother's psychological torture on what is an acceptable form of femininity has made her cold, tightly wound, and brittle. Everything about her beauty and the glamorous (non murderous) parts of her life are made with extreme amount of effort and work. The idea of being able to just BE and be seen as worthy ( under her warped view where beauty and perfection is everything) must be intoxicating. I bet this is another reason she hates Julia. She is the antithesis of what Tessa is and how she lives her life. She's what she secretly wants to be.
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5 hours ago, RyanSz said:So did anyone else see this as an allegory to Heigl's career? She started as a child/teen model, an industry with a strong emphasis on looks, and surprisingly earned a reputation as a difficult to work with due to stage parent mom who was also her manager, That reputation carried into her acting career where she did a variety of movies and shows, but nothing huge enough to get her continuous bigger roles. Then she lands Gray's Anatomy and earns heaps of praise and an Emmy, she even admitting during that speech that even her own mom/manager didn't think she was good enough to win. This basically has Hollywood needing to give her those bigger roles as the current "it" actress, akin to her getting an anchor baby to keep her husband in this movie. That eventually sours though as her prior reputation continues to cause her issues, like her various interviews about Knocked Up or how she withdrew her name from Emmy consideration because she didn't like the writing for Gray's Anatomy. Eventually she's leaving the show and doing flop after flop which pushes her outta sight of the casual TV/movie viewer, as her character also feels in this film, in what many saw along with the Emmy pulling out as a career suicide, which she does with literal suicide at the end of this.
Or maybe I'm just punchy from getting home after midnight from the Berkeley show, trying to remember my correction and omission for when that episode comes out.
Not going to lie I was a bit shocked she was in this because last I heard she was doing cat litter commercials.
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6 hours ago, Cameron H. said:I believe (I could be wrong) Amazon Worlds has been shut down. From what I understand, it was some fan fiction, but it was also books just based on different “themes” or “worlds.” It was a way for indie authors to get their work in front of eyes that might better appreciate their genre. So, for example, if you were into Dinosaur porn books, you could have your book included in the dinosaur porn “world” for people to easily find. This was, for awhile, a pretty good way for indie authors to get noticed and make a decent living. Ultimately, its downfall was that each “world” had a head author whose responsibility was to curate the work being uploaded. Essentially, they acted as the EiC and it was their job to either approve or reject incoming submissions. The catch was, for each book uploaded to their world, the head author would receive something like fifty dollars - whether that book was profitable or not. Unfortunately, as you might suspect, this lead to a lot of abuse when many of these (not all) head of world figures would accept a ton of books without regard to quality. (i.e. Lots of dinosaur porn books, just not *good* dinosaur porn books) This created a situation where no one was really making money except these heads of world, so Amazon shut it down.
To my knowledge, some of these worlds do still exist except now the *author* pays the head of the world instead of Amazon - which is in itself pretty shady.
It looks like the whole thing was shut down last year. I found this old article about it on Mic that was interesting from a legal perspective. It sounds like by submitting your fanfiction work Amazon Publishing and the OG licence holder own your original characters and story ideas and can use them how they want without you getting paid or credit. So potentially you could see the story in like an anthology series or it could become a plot in whatever show or book you were writing about. Honestly from the sounds of it it seems like doing a 50 Shades of Grey or Mortal Instruments would be the best way to keep your story intact and yours.
Also the idea of buying fan fiction seems like a really silly business idea. Archive of Our Own is full of fantastic work. I'm not saying they shouldn't be compensated for their time or that their work doesn't deserve but paid for because it's lesser than original fiction, I love fan works, but I think part of the joy of fan works are that they are done simply because someone loved a property. It feels strange to me to have someone sell that work as is. It's the idea that you can take a community ( because I have yet to find fan works without being in some kind of community no matter how small. Actually usually the smaller the more dedicated) and put a price tag on it. I find fan works to be very much community based. Often something is written for someone, or drawn as part of a round up, a group's monthly theme challenge, or an exchange.
I just don't know if selling fan fiction flat out is a great plan.( obviously with them shutting down it didn't work) . I have no problem with Patreons, Ko-Fi tip jars etc as a way to monetarily compensate someone but I don't know maybe I'm old?
Also now I wonder if there's HDTGM fanfic but I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to look.
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12 hours ago, Elektra Boogaloo said:I haven't finished listening to the whole ep yet but before I forget, I want to talk a little bit about Wattpad and other apps like it, since (as some of you know) work in publishing.
The audience member has a correct description of Wattpad. Plenty of original books and some fanfictions posted on there have been picked up my major publishers. Just this year they announced their own publishing arm. They had previous had a film arm which produced the Netflix movie "The Kissing Booth" which was written on Wattpad and was one of the most watched movies on Netflix for several months.
But, as June points out, it would be odd to have an editor at the Wattpad 2017, since they only announced their publishing line this year--unless she is some kind of content editor which it didn't seem like she was. I think in this case the "ChapterPad" of the movie might also have been inspired by some other publishing start-ups of the time. With smart phones getting more popular, a lot of people were intrigued by the idea of people reading on their phones (and 70% of traffic on Wattpad is from mobile devices). There were companies that would send you a chapter of a story each day to your email, for example. Alternatively, it could be an app you subscribed to that would provide the content. In this case, I could see why Rosario Dawson would be needed as an editor, and why she would have to do things by chapter, rather than all at once.
This kind of publishing is called "serial" (not like the food, like the killer). It used to be quite popular when newspapers and magazines were the thing. Most of Charles Dickens' novels, which we now read in long form, were originally serialized in the newspaper.
Here is a NYT article from the time about some of the "new" apps: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/books/review/new-apps-provide-a-world-of-literature-one-chapter-at-a-time.html
Publishing likes to find ways to make new things do the old way, instead of imagining what the new things could do.
I was just about to mention Amazon's Kindle Serial. One of my favorite authors (Seanan Mcguire ) did two books with the service and I would get chapters added to my book as she posted them. I was able to get the first book by the time it has been completed and then I think I was at the half way point for the second one. It was ... An interesting idea. Not for me because once I'm in a book ( and I'm always into her books) I want to gobble up the whole thing in one sitting. I'm the same with tv shows and go out of my way to not watch while it's on air so I can binge watch. Sadly it doesn't look like she will be writing a third because I really loved the series she was building.
Also you can buy straight up fanfiction on Amazon now and I don't mean fanfic that's just had the names sloppily changed. Like full on fanfaction is for sale as I found out when I accidentally bought a bunch of "books" I thought were Veronica Mars books because the actual tie in books had just been released and I assumed Rob Thomas had passed on the writing to other people after the first 2 like a lot of tv show tie in books do. So that is somehow a thing. Is called Kindle Worlds and it's legal because they split royalties between the writer and the owners of the actual thing. It sounds really iffy when you look at it. Like who actually owns said work now and stuff. Also you only get like 20% or something.
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20 hours ago, ClefCrescendo said:I can't believe I just learned today that Steve Mnuchin was a film producer!!! AND that he's worked on MANY big films! I'm at a loss for words...
Executive Producer of the following films:
6 Below: Miracle on the Mountain, The House, Annabelle: Creation, Wonder Woman, King Arthur: Legend of the Sword, Unforgettable, Going in Style, CHIPS, Fist Fight, The Lego Batman Movie, Collateral Beauty, Rules Don't Apply (he also appears in this one!), The Accountant, The Midnight Man, Storks, Sully, Suicide Squad, The Legend of Tarzan, Central Intelligence, Lights Out, The Conjuring 2, Keanu, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Midnight Special, How to Be Single, In the Heart of the Sea, Pan, The Intern, Our Brand Is Crisis, Black Mass, The Man from U.N.C.L.E., Vacation, Entourage, Mad Max: Fury Road, Get Hard, Run All Night, American Sniper, Inherent Vice, Annabelle, This Is Where I Leave You, Edge of Tomorrow, Blended, Winter's Tale, The Lego Movie!
Knowing this monster was attached to Wonder Woman and Keanu breaks my heart.
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7 minutes ago, E.Lerner said:100% agree. There's only one live-action character on the "positive portrayals" list in the (seemingly comprehensive) Wikipedia page "Albinism in popular culture" and it's from a fan-made short film parody of The Da Vinci Code.
I remember when the actual movie came out and some tv show like Inside Edition did a piece on how it was hurtful and negatively affecting the albino community.
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2 hours ago, taylorannephoto said:I wish this part had made it into Sofia's movie. I would've loved to have watched Emma Watson and Leslie Mann recreate this scene lol.
We were robbed!
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Episode 223.5 - Minisode 223.5
in How Did This Get Made?
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I'm not going to lie I was a a little bit sad that my carefully researched statistics weren't mentioned but I figured that it was a bummer of a topic so that was why. I have been really getting annoyed by the callers coming in at the Q and A section because I feel it cuts the flow. I feel like if they did the phone calls at the start of the section it might be easier to deal with.