Caligula (1979)

[LiquidSnape 0]

I would love to see an episode for this movie.

[HipGuide 196]

Holy crap. This would be incredible. Mantzoukas may spotaneously combust during this,.

[seanotron 2307]

It is notoriously awful, but it's basically just a porn (hell, it was made by Penthouse). It is worth pondering how they got people like Peter O'Toole, Gore Vidal and Sergei Prokofiev involved. I think everyone involved pretty much disowned it.

[sillstaw 414]

To be honest, the stories of how this movie got made are pretty fun, especially if you like the clashing egos inherent in juicy Hollywood gossip. It's too bad that, of the three people who would have the best stories on it, two of them (producer Bob Guccione and writer Gore Vidal) are dead, and the other (Tinto Brass) might not speak English and is likely too busy making softcore porn to bother.

 

On the other hand, given his career lately, I wouldn't be surprised if Malcolm McDowell did the podcast just to get a sandwich. I mean, anyone who willingly stars on "Franklin & Bash" can't be too choosy.

[seanotron 2307]

Malcolm McDowell has definitely found a second life on cable TV.

[Quasar Sniffer 4174]

Apparently, John Gielgud had an AMAZING time making this movie... because he loved being surrounded by all the naked young men. What self-respecting lover-of-men would not?

[jarrycanada 2483]

This movie was done in Malcolm McDowell's coke days. he got very scary looking after this movie and could not work for a long time.I am not sure is this movie still considered a x rated movie?

 

at one point of the making of this movie Bob Guccione had to steal his own movie back and edit in more sex scenes to get his movie made the way he wanted it.

 

I remember seeing this movie once, it isn't really all that good. if memory serves me.

 

I like Malcolm McDowell's btw. But you got to becareful of his movies because he signs up for everything. I think he does Bar Mitzvahs and dinner theatre.

[seanotron 2307]

It has actual sex in it, not just simulated scenes, so I'm fairly certain it's an NC-17 (the equivalent of the old X).

[jarrycanada 2483]

I Remember reading that Midnight cowboy got a x rating in the 1960s and in the last 10-20 years got re-rated down to a R. Not that it really needs a R Rating eather by todays standards.

 

http://www.amazon.co...ywords=Caligula

 

I thouht Caligula got re-rated too down to a R too as it's not really that pornographic next to other modern day movies. movies like the cook chef wife and her lover.

 

if only there was a place i could look that up...

[seanotron 2307]

The R-cut must take out the sex, because I don't see how it could be an R with actual sex in it.

[sillstaw 414]

Yeah, this movie has all sorts of different versions. Versions with more and less hardcore footage, varying lengths for different countries; there might actually be a cut that doesn't make an average person want to give up on food for a few days.

[RyanSz 3140]

Yeah they sell the original cut in porn stores still, so that should tell you something. I also have to think that they got Helen Mirren in it because of Peter O'Toole and Malcolm.

[HipGuide 196]

do they not do older movies because they don't have a frame of reference for them or do they think it's not their job to make light of bad movies no one's seen?

[sillstaw 414]

do they not do older movies because they don't have a frame of reference for them or do they think it's not their job to make light of bad movies no one's seen?

 

It's partly because there are just so many good ones from recently to cover, and yeah, people tend to be more familiar with the recent ones. It's similar for why they don't do more obscure stuff.

[seanotron 2307]

Yeah, I would imagine the 80s are more or less the cutoff given everyone's age.

[choochoo_the_wonder_slut 740]

Hardcore porn producers should tackle historical epics more often. I've seen Lincoln, and it was pretty good, but it really could've used a scene where someone jacks off a horse at a Gettysburg orgy.

[RyanSz 3140]

Hardcore porn producers should tackle historical epics more often. I've seen Lincoln, and it was pretty good, but it really could've used a scene where someone jacks off a horse at a Gettysburg orgy.

 

Or that Lincoln wants to pull a Jefferson and bang his help and you would have to have Lincoln cover his dick with his top hat a la Family Guy.

[KyleKnapp 5]

It has a male-on-male fisting scene with Malcolm McDowell featuring Helen Mirren watching! Malcolm McDowell fucking his sister! Peter O'Toole with terrible makeup, frolicking in a pool with underage boys! I mean, need I say more? You need to do this movie if for no other reason that I think it might set a new off-the-charts record for June's upset-o-meter. And I totally agree that I would be willing to bet you could get someone involved to do an interview. Even Dame Helen has gone on record as saying she thinks there's a genuinely interesting film somewhere in there.

[KyleKnapp 5]

Holy crap. This would be incredible. Mantzoukas may spotaneously combust during this,.

I am genuinely afraid he would jerk it so much he might need medical attention.

[LaurenShear 0]

Honestly I'd give anything to hear Paul, June and Jason dissect this one. It would make such an excellent episode, and a super long one, because there's just so much there to unpack! I saw it when I was a teenager on late-night cable and it scarred the fuck out of me, but its oddity fascinated me to the point where I more recently rented the DVD from Netflix just for the commentary. Malcom McDowell's stories of the bizarre goings-on on set were so fascinating and hilarious, and if we never get a HDTGM episode about this fucked-up movie at least there'll always be the DVD commentary. But GOD do I want to hear June, Jason and Paul talk about this!!!!

[RyanSz 3140]

I had a chance to ask McDowell about this movie recently, as he was one of the featured guests for Wizard Con here in Sacramento. Unfortunately he wasn't in the best of moods as he has no one in line waiting to get his autograph, and when I mean no one, I mean I literally walked right up to him and got an autograph and shook his hand. This was only made worse by the fact that the person whose booth he was next to, Danny Trejo's had such a long line that there was an overflow line that went on the other side of McDowell's booth, so I figured he wasn't too keen on talking about a crazy porn movie he had a role in in the 70s.

[Cockney Mackem 514]

They should totally do this, and so the full uncut version where Bob Guccione took the film off the director and inserted loads of hardcore porn into it.

[LeonSpinkx 0]

Downloading Caligual (uncut) in 1080 now. Will report back.

[Pancake_Jones 1]

Caligula

[Lando 2019]

Downloading Caligual (uncut) in 1080 now. Will report back.

 

And he was never seen or heard from again...