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As for the director's cut ending, I'm wondering if that's more the style of the original musical. They didn't have Mean Green Mother from Outer Space so that "cinematic" ending would be more of a punch to an audience physically walking out of a theater. Adding it to the movie after the addition of Mean Green was too much. (Sorry for the spate of posts. I had a bad few days adjusting to a better way of eating so I'm catching up now.)

"Here he is folks, the Leader of the Plaque" tickles me every time and makes the show a winner. Howard Ashman certainly had a way with words.

Here's an article from The Decider talking about why the movie works well. Who would have thought Fozzie Bear could make a movie with such humor? Fozzie's jokes weren't "funny".

I completely agree about the practical effects. I would go so far as to say they look better in HD quality. I can't say that for most movies, even more modern ones. I admit to being tainted by HDTGM. I was so sure the movie makers pulled a Streets of Fire and draped an outside area so scenes could be shot irregardless of the sun. Later it was obvious it was a set, especially when it rains but the Doo-Wop Girls don't get wet until they step out into the street. Even then it doesn't seem like they get very wet. Very good compositing? (GIF from Tumblr)

I can't find anything other than it was a slow build. Roger Corman didn't even think it would be a success so he didn't copyright it. That's why it's in the public domain now and you can find various copies of it floating around. It was shown on TV here and there throughout the 60's and 70's and became a cult following. When home video took off the covers featured Jack Nicholson to gather interest since he was a known star. When I first discovered Death Race 2000, I read Roger Corman's claim that all his movies were profitable so I guess this did well enough.

THANK YOU! That's what I was trying to figure out how to say but couldn't so I didn't. Now that I saw it I like (love?) the idea of Audrey dying, Seymour feeding her and then dying himself. In the original movie Audrey doesn't die but Seymour does, climbing into Audrey Jr. with a hatchet (or axe) to kill Audrey Jr. from the inside. He's successful and the movie ends. If they had ended the movie musical after Seymour I would have been happy with that. I certainly understand buying multiple discs to have both endings and I would agree with doing that. Several streaming services (HBO Max, Vudu, Movies Anywhere, at least) allow both with one subscription, rental, or purchase but you don't physically own anything. I'm getting away from streaming and going back to physical discs. All you own with a streaming is a license. You're counting on them not pulling the movie because their license ran out, or them losing the data that you own the license (as happened with me with iTunes when I had to switch my AppleID to a new e-mail address). Physical is best again. Sorry, I didn't mean to rant. I'll wipe the spittle from my mouth and go back to work.

Would you answer a hypothetical question?

I am sold on this movie from the title alone! How did i miss this gem in the 80's?

c'mon y'all...time for some Ricochet action. Denzel...Lithgow...Ice-T...that's all you need.

I agree. Like the second to last song is basically Audrey II torturing Seymour until it eats him and I guess this plays off the sadistic nature of other characters but the payoff is unsatisfying for the audience. If he grew big and we see Seymour crushed in the rumble I think that would be a could place to jump into the finale scene with. I'm not against dark endings or endings where the bad guy wins. From age 15 to 22 I probably only wanted dark downbeat endings. However, there is a difference between the bad guy winning and having salt rubbed in your wounds. I feel The Mist falls into this as well. What the main character does and the outcome of it horrible and crushing enough but then there is a moment that just rubs salt in that wound and sours it all for me. In Little Shop you have Seymour get eaten AND Audrey II takes over the world. One of those things is enough but both does seem like excess.

Perhaps Little Shop the exception proving the rule, but I just saw a thing with Steve Martin and he was recounting his bad reviews. The one that stuck with his was something like, “If Steve Martin has died his hair in it, it’s going to be bad.” Lol

I can't help but think how terrifying this musical must've been to anyone who has had a legit fear of dentists lol I do think it was good to establish just how despicable his character is in setting up a reason of "this asshole deserves it" for being killed. It certainly is uncomfortable and was weird that it was one of the first songs replayed during the credits. Someone must've really liked it. (Also was really bizarre seeing Steve Martin with black hair lol) So, a question: Who was worse, the sadist or the masochist?

I really don't see what a remake is going to accomplish. The effects in this hold up quite well (and that opening shot that looks like space revealing its a puddle is so surprisingly good that it fools me every time). I predict this just not having the heart of the original which is what pushes this along. I wouldn't say it's perfect either but the only thing I'd change is the dentist. I've always felt the scene with the dentist is unnecessarily long in both versions. I'd say it could be cut completely. Set up that he abuses Audrey and that's all we need instead of a lengthy scene without our leads.

Honestly part of why I wanted to revisit this version before it gets sullied by a new remake which will undoubtedly have CG effects instead of these practical effects that still look INCREDIBLY GOOD. But yeah, my first time seeing this, I was, I think, older teens? It's so well done though, the music and how it's incorporated into the story, the cast, the atmosphere... I don't want to say it's a perfect movie, but hell, it sure comes close. (I haven't yet watched the original director's cut ending, but I did read up on it. I think it would have been interesting, but I understand how test audiences didn't respond well lol) Levi Stubbs is just... so soooo good in this role. I soooorta remember Mother Brain, but it's been so long... Uhh, gushing aside, my roommate and I were questioning how Audrey II knew Audrey's phone number to call her lol

A few weeks ago, in preparation for this episode, I nearly bought 2:22 because it was on sale for cheap, but I decided against it because it was on Hulu. I’m really grateful they released this now while it’s still available to stream