EPISODE 189 — Apes Will Fight If We Must

[GrumpyZhukov 33]

Love the episode! But I have to agree with some of the other forum posts, Doug the Angry Trumpet Guy is completely impossible to listen to. Besser has to know that he is crazy and totally full of shit, right? Between the inane comments about psychology and the universe, completely getting basic facts wrong (like the population of the US during the Truman administration and today), constantly bringing up minutiae about his life and how long he's lived in Manhattan, and INCESSANTLY saying things like "What you have to know about that is..." or "The interesting thing about that is..."

 

I agree with you here and (I suspect like yourself) I don't have a strong dislike or hate of Doug - he's just quite tiring. A little bit like an elderly relative who you have to indulge out of politeness. After all, not every point needs to be illustrated with an example and after a while you could here the guys quietly laughing when Doug began another story. I do lose patience when he starts talking about levitating whilst meditating. I imagine one can feel or visualise that you are floating...and that's it.

 

GZ

[MultipleReferee 176]

Tween Gay News needs to be a recurring segment on every Earwolf podcast. I'm joking of course, but my god was that glorious. I started cracking up immediately and didn't stop until the scene did.

 

Also the accent fuck-up at the end was great. It's nice when all the guests are good friends, since that ball-busting camaraderie always seeps into the scenes and fuels the energy of the show.

[MultipleReferee 176]

@MattCameron

 

I don't think so cos in the clip he was saying Groundlings didn't get it right either. Matt said it was a guy who ran a place 'across the street'. I don't think it's literally there but I googled improv classes taking place around UCB Franklin and the only guess I have is Keith Saltojanes of 'Improv LA', but no idea if it's him and me finger pointing like this does no one any good. But I admit to being weirdly fixated on this now

 

I just want to hear the guy in his own words.

 

GZ

 

Yeah, speculation doesn't really do anybody any good. I looked up that guy and it's not him, since Matt said the guy in question had been in the improv scene even longer than he has

[sophieee 86]

I just don't get how Doug's whole claim to fame is "getting on a tasteless level" and yelling at that trumpet guy and then he tells Matt to just keep his mouth shut and rise above it through TM or something similar. Sounded like a sales pitch. I love listening to Doug. Talking to weirdo strangers is my past time, but I wish Matt would have said something about his trumpet outburst and how it went against what he was saying. I'm sure if Matt would have brought that point up, it would have been some scripted holier than thou stuff that was most of Doug's speech but it would have been worth a shot.

 

Also, that person blocking Doug in the elevator story sounds like he left out a huge chunk of the story. It's really rare that someone who can hold down an apartment is that crazy to do that for no reason.

 

Matt, just fucking yell at him. You know that's what you want and that's UCB performers and fans want. I'll volunteer to be I4H's spirit animal and give you all the answers since I nailed this one. Call me.

[potsmaster 36]

 

I agree with you here and (I suspect like yourself) I don't have a strong dislike or hate of Doug - he's just quite tiring. A little bit like an elderly relative who you have to indulge out of politeness. After all, not every point needs to be illustrated with an example and after a while you could here the guys quietly laughing when Doug began another story. I do lose patience when he starts talking about levitating whilst meditating. I imagine one can feel or visualise that you are floating...and that's it.

 

GZ

 

Yeah, I get what you mean. And I don't have any hatred or malice toward the guy, I just have a very low threshold for his longwinded style of speaking. Admittedly I didn't hear the guys laughing in the background because I could not listen that long, I just got so frustrated. And admittedly (again) it would be in bad form for Besser and the guests to bad mouth him on the show right after he was on would be in bad form

[saintgimp 5]

 

Yeah, speculation doesn't really do anybody any good. I looked up that guy and it's not him, since Matt said the guy in question had been in the improv scene even longer than he has

 

Also it says on his website that he appears and writes for UCB regularly so probably not him.

[MattCameron 595]

I think I figured out who it is but for the sake of not inciting a barrage of tweets or pissing Besser off I will not name him in here.

[saintgimp 5]

I'll admit I don't know much about long form improv. Basically this podcast is all I know of it so maybe I have no right to comment; however, I assume the live shows are similar to what goes on here. Given the popularity of UCB, it seems to me this guy saying "I don't get it. I don't understand it." is the equivalent of the elementary class where teacher clearly explains the lesson and asks if anyone has any questions and the little shit that's been blowing spit balls all day raises his hand and the whole class groans as the teacher explains the whole thing over again.

[KajusX 1807]

I know a lot of people are casual listeners, but if you don't understand some of the deeper stuff surrounding long-form improv, particularly UCB's, and want to know more, there's this book called:

 

The Upright Citizens Brigade Comedy Improvisation Manual

 

It's an awesome tome!

 

And also, there is the internet. The UCB's wikipedia page even mentions the Harold, and the Harold itself has its own Wikipedia page.

[jerseypin 89]

What's the Armando show that Besser references at the end of Case Closed?

[Dumplings 25]

Apes SHOULD fight if they have to.

 

bring Besser the head of David Razowsky

 

 

 

 

just google ADD comedy podcast

[denimgremlin 1179]

What's the Armando show that Besser references at the end of Case Closed?

 

It's a show at Improv Olympic. It's like their Asssscat. Guest monologist talks and then that's used as a jumping off point for scenes

[Corky Kneivel 113]

WENGERT!! ™©®

 

(when you speak em, you speak em well)

[Dumplings 25]

http://www.davidrazowsky.com/improvisacting/Videos.html

 

wow, this guy might me one of the least funny people of all time

[sophieee 86]

OMFG the ending. MATTY B.

[MattCameron 595]

Apes SHOULD fight if they have to.

 

bring Besser the head of David Razowsky

 

 

 

 

just google ADD comedy podcast

 

Well I didn't want to say it but I guess it's out there now. What a tool.

[youpoditdude 50]

Do I sense an upcoming "Coward of the County" segment?

[illuminatedwax 59]

Now that it's out there, I'm not surprised it's a co-founder of the Annoyance -- Matt has had to defend his improv from them before. (EDIT: Man, watching his improv, he IS a very selfish performer. He just stomps all over anyone else on stage. And his "philosophy" just sounds like meaningless hippie-dippie crap.)

 

I'm sorry to see that Doug's angry trumpet video has become a beacon for a bunch of racist, anti-semetic, Stormfront comments on YouTube. I'm guessing those communities are targeting it.

[AlbinLundholm 4020]

Episodes like this prove why this is the best podcast in the universe

[saddlebags 581]

Love the episode! But I have to agree with some of the other forum posts, Doug the Angry Trumpet Guy is completely impossible to listen to. Besser has to know that he is crazy and totally full of shit, right?

 

No I doubt besser gets any of that. I'm sure meta humor and irony go right over the father of modern improvs head.

[saddlebags 581]

http://www.davidrazo...ing/Videos.html

 

wow, this guy might me one of the least funny people of all time

 

 

lol that video on his website that's just pictures of him and famous people. Like that gives him any authority.

 

That's what I like about UCB. They're not all OMG look how famous we, or are alumni, are. In fact, it's the opposite--every UCB thing I see is promoting their unknown but upcoming students.

 

Even the most famous UCB people just get in the room and do the work.

[Erudite crudite 225]

I do lose patience when he starts talking about levitating whilst meditating. I imagine one can feel or visualise that you are floating...and that's it.

 

No, when Matt asked Doug about levitating, Doug said it's not full flight, it's hopping. He's talking about

, which is pretty funny to see in practice. This might be a good video to show on I4H.

 

There was a federal political party in Canada in the 90s, the Natural Law Party, that espoused yogic flying. That's how I know about it.

[Kickpuncher 5012]

I think I figured out who it is but for the sake of not inciting a barrage of tweets or pissing Besser off I will not name him in here.

 

Obviously I can't speak for Matt, but I have a feeling that he's perfectly happy to have someone figure it out and discuss it in here.

 

And while I'm trying to get into Besser's head, does anyone else find it funny that this is the second time he's likened himself to a character from a dystopic sci-fi movie?

 

Anyway, great episode!

[greazey_bob 166]

i am 47. good stuff

[souprman 10477]

i am 47. good stuff

at least you're not 17, that would be gross.