FisterRoboto 7499 Posted March 9, 2017 Â Yes, but Frost still manages to be likable. I feel like they reversed types in Paul as well and I found i liked that one more. Â The thing is, the movies in the Cornetto Trilogy are not what they actually are. Shaun is about putting behind your childhood and becoming an adult and accepting responsibility; Fuzz is about not getting so wrapped up in being a responsible adult that you forget to have fun; World's End is about being so wrapped up in the ephemera in life that we lose sight of who we truly are. I'm on board for the first two, but I'm not sure that I buy the third. I think I like it because it cuts both ways in The World's End. Both Frost and Pegg have a character arc and have to change as a result of what's going on around them, whereas Frost has a pretty flat arc in both of the first two movies. He just kind of stays the lovable manchild in both of them, and while that's fun to watch, I find letting them both have a character arc to be enjoyable. Â Because that's what I feel like adult friendships are. It's rare that one person changes into a whole different person and is suddenly responsible or suddenly learns how to appreciate the fun in life. Instead it's often a meeting somewhere in the middle between the two personalities. Our friendships change us, although usually in far more subtle ways. All of my adult friendships (especially the ones I cherish most) have challenged me in ways I couldn't expect. Sometimes it's learning not to just say the first asshole thing that pops into my head. Sometimes it's hearing another person's perspective on things and putting myself in their shoes. And sometimes, it's just that being around a person that isn't you and doesn't have your same history, thoughts, and feelings makes your life different. And other times, it's just arguing with your friends about stupid shit like movies. Â And that's my biggest takeaway from The World's End. I don't take as being about losing sight of who you are as much as I see it being about two people whose friendship changes them. 4 Share this post Link to post
Cameron H. 23786 Posted March 9, 2017 I think I like it because it cuts both ways in The World's End. Both Frost and Pegg have a character arc and have to change as a result of what's going on around them, whereas Frost has a pretty flat arc in both of the first two movies. He just kind of stays the lovable manchild in both of them, and while that's fun to watch, I find letting them both have a character arc to be enjoyable. Â Because that's what I feel like adult friendships are. It's rare that one person changes into a whole different person and is suddenly responsible or suddenly learns how to appreciate the fun in life. Instead it's often a meeting somewhere in the middle between the two personalities. Our friendships change us, although usually in far more subtle ways. All of my adult friendships (especially the ones I cherish most) have challenged me in ways I couldn't expect. Sometimes it's learning not to just say the first asshole thing that pops into my head. Sometimes it's hearing another person's perspective on things and putting myself in their shoes. And sometimes, it's just that being around a person that isn't you and doesn't have your same history, thoughts, and feelings makes your life different. And other times, it's just arguing with your friends about stupid shit like movies. Â And that's my biggest takeaway from The World's End. I don't take as being about losing sight of who you are as much as I see it being about two people whose friendship changes them. Â Of course I haven't watched it in awhile, so if I'm mixing things up feel free to correct me, but doesn't WE literally just end with Pegg's character becoming the leader of his old gang again? That's not evolution. He gets to be the leader of his group of friend's (dominating them really, as he's "The King" after all), which is exactly what he's wanted the entire movie. His reward isn't to move forward and cultivate mature relationships with his REAL non-robot alien friends, but to split from them forever so he can relive his glory days with ersatz robot dildoes. If I'm not wrong about the details, that's a bullshit message and not much of an "arc." 1 Share this post Link to post
FisterRoboto 7499 Posted March 9, 2017 Â Of course I haven't watched it in awhile, so if I'm mixing things up feel free to correct me, but doesn't WE literally just end with Pegg's character becoming the leader of his old gang again? That's not evolution. He gets to be the leader of his group of friend's (dominating them really, as he's "The King" after all), which is exactly what he's wanted the entire movie. His reward isn't to move forward and cultivate mature relationships with his REAL non-robot alien friends, but to split from them forever so he can relive his glory days with ersatz robot dildoes. If I'm not wrong about the details, that's a bullshit message and not much of an "arc." Hold on, y'all. I remember the ending having a different meaning for me, but I'm going to rewatch it to be sure my theory holds water. See y'all on the other side... 5 Share this post Link to post
Cameron H. 23786 Posted March 9, 2017 Â Hold on, y'all. I remember the ending having a different meaning for me, but I'm going to rewatch it to be sure my theory holds water. See y'all on the other side... Â You probably should as I am 100% talking out of my ass. Â Â 5 Share this post Link to post
FisterRoboto 7499 Posted March 9, 2017 You probably should as I am 100% talking out of my ass. Well, that's certainly a thing that NEVER happens around here... 7 Share this post Link to post
Cameron H. 23786 Posted March 9, 2017 Ya'll  Ha! No, we're good. Although between our opposing views on this, Colin Farrell, and coconuts, I sometimes wonder how Fister and I get along at all...  It's the main reason I've never asked the group for your opinions on licorice.   Which, as we all know, tastes like the bastard child of cruddy motor oil and rancid despair.  4 Share this post Link to post
tomspanks 9039 Posted March 9, 2017 Ha! No, we're good. Although between our opposing views on this, Colin Farrell, and coconuts, I sometimes wonder how Fister and I get along at all... It's the main reason I've never asked the group for your opinions on licorice.   Which, as we all know, tastes like the bastard child of cruddy motor oil and rancid despair.   Coconuts? Story time!  Guys, this movie won't end. It's so different from the stage version too. 6 Share this post Link to post
kateacola 2440 Posted March 9, 2017 Â It's the main reason I've never asked the group for your opinions on licorice. Â Â Which, as we all know, tastes like the bastard child of cruddy motor oil and rancid despair. Â What kind of licorice we talking? Red or black? Or do you mean both? Â 3 Share this post Link to post
kateacola 2440 Posted March 9, 2017 Â Coconuts? Story time! Â Guys, this movie won't end. It's so different from the stage version too. Oh good, maybe I'm not alone... Thought I'd be in the minority on my opinion of the movie. Â And yes, Id like to know about the coconuts too... Â and also what kind of migration we talking? were they carried by African or European swallows? Â 4 Share this post Link to post
Cameron H. 23786 Posted March 9, 2017 What kind of licorice we talking? Red or black? Or do you mean both? Â Well, neither are ideal--but, specifically, I'm convinced black licorice is the end result of the Faustian pact that granted Willy Wonka the ability to enslave an entire race of benevolent, mandarin-faced, candy makers. 4 Share this post Link to post
Cinco DeNio 5290 Posted March 9, 2017 It's the main reason I've never asked the group for your opinions on licorice. Â Â Which, as we all know, tastes like the bastard child of cruddy motor oil and rancid despair. Â If it was spelled with the other variant, liquorice, maybe we'd all like it better. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquorice 4 Share this post Link to post
Cinco DeNio 5290 Posted March 9, 2017 Â Well, neither are ideal--but, specifically, I'm convinced black licorice is the end result of a the Faustian pact that granted Willy Wonka the ability to enslave an entire race of benevolent, jaded mandarin-faced, candy makers. Â FTFY 6 Share this post Link to post
tomspanks 9039 Posted March 9, 2017 If it was spelled with the other variant, liquorice, maybe we'd all like it better. https://en.wikipedia.../wiki/Liquorice  I'm pretty sure both versions taste like satan's farts.  FTFY  7 Share this post Link to post
kateacola 2440 Posted March 9, 2017 I love licorice  I will say I do like red licorice. but black licorice I'd say:  & if we are debating the spelling... you see how I stand. 6 Share this post Link to post
Cakebug Tranch 6873 Posted March 9, 2017 As an Aussie, my love for licorice is in my genes. Can't beat Darrell Lea! Â We take our licorice SERIOUS, yo. Â (including baffling flavours) Â 5 Share this post Link to post
Cameron H. 23786 Posted March 9, 2017 As an Aussie, my love for licorice is in my genes. Can't beat Darrell Lea! Â We take our licorice SERIOUS, yo. Â (including baffling flavours) Â Â Â (I chose this gif as it's more aggressive.) 2 Share this post Link to post
Cakebug Tranch 6873 Posted March 9, 2017 Â (I chose this gif as it's more aggressive.) At least now I know what to bring you when I meet you next month! Â Â Â That's right guys, Cameron and I might be in the SAME ROOM next month. Â Â Â 6 Share this post Link to post
FisterRoboto 7499 Posted March 9, 2017 Licorice is awesome. Get your life together, Cameron. Â (BTW, I'm still only halfway through The World's End. Work apparently decided I needed to do stuff on my work from home day and not just fuck around watching movies.) 5 Share this post Link to post
tomspanks 9039 Posted March 9, 2017 I will say I do like red licorice. but black licorice I'd say:  & if we are debating the spelling... you see how I stand.  Same. I like the candy, hate the black licorice flavor  As an Aussie, my love for licorice is in my genes. Can't beat Darrell Lea!  We take our licorice SERIOUS, yo.  (including baffling flavours)   We have that brand here. My coworker gets the strawberry ones all the time. They're so good.  And an update: I found a copy of Time Out magazine (for this week) on the street today. 5 Share this post Link to post
JammerLea 2070 Posted March 9, 2017 A Finnish girl we used to know once sent us salmiakki for Christmas.  That was my first and last time trying any sort of licorice lol   Since it was sort of mentioned I'm gonna throw in that I never liked Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory.  7 Share this post Link to post
tomspanks 9039 Posted March 9, 2017 At least now I know what to bring you when I meet you next month! Â Â That's right guys, Cameron and I might be in the SAME ROOM next month. Â Â Â Â How? Why? 3 Share this post Link to post
Cakebug Tranch 6873 Posted March 10, 2017 A Finnish girl we used to know once sent us salmiakki for Christmas.  That was my first and last time trying any sort of licorice lol   Since it was sort of mentioned I'm gonna throw in that I never liked Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory.  There's an amazing Swedish bakery around the corner from us that does a licorice cake that I dream about.  Loving black licorice means you get more jelly beans than anyone else. Pays to enjoy aniseed... 2 Share this post Link to post