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Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:46 PM

Correction:

In the senate hearing, Butler wasn't coming in hot at the guy in charge just to be a dick, the Senator was hostile from the start, by giving half-truths to the various things Butler had done like hitting an inspector, when Butler had in fact saved the guy from electrocuting himself by putting his hand on a open wiring system. The senator was also upset Butler started Dutchboy ahead of schedule without consulting the government committee, even though the world was being ravaged by natural disasters at the moment. So Butler was just meeting dickishness with dickishness, It's just a long-running trope for Devlin films where there is some bureaucrat just making life difficult for the lead every-man character.

Also, Butler was running everything when he got back on the space station as he was assigned by his brother and Ed Harris to troubleshoot what was going wrong with the station and if it was being hacked, since he basically knew everything about the station as he led building it.
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 10:29 AM

Omission:

I'm legitimately surprised no one picked this up, but while the focus of Ed Harris' masterplan was to destroy America's enemies, the secondary part of his plan was to assume the office of President of the United States. Unfortunately, as the Secretary of State, he is 4th in the line of succession behind 1) the Vice President, 2) Speaker of the House of Representatives, 3) President pro tempore of the Senate. The writers of the movie must've worried about someone calling out the chain of succession so they added a single line during the Democratic Convention in Orlando where the VP says "and I'm joined here with the Speaker of the House and the President pro tempore of the Senate to support the President to reelection" in order to show that if Orlando were destroyed, only Ed Harris would be left to take over.

A few problems with this.
  • First of all, the role of President pro tempore of the Senate is way less powerful than a Majority Leader in the Senate, but is assigned by the Majority Leader. Its the reason you would see Mike Pence, Mitch McConnell, and Paul Ryan together on TV or in the news. You wouldn't just randomly start talking about Orrin Hatch instead of Mitch McConnell. Wouldn't a more meaningful statement to make at a political convention to say "I am joined here by the Speaker of the House and the Majority Leader of the Senate."
  • Secondly, wouldn't it be easier to make Ed Harris the VP so that he is more clearly bad guy with the most to benefit? Its not as if Ed Harris was doing Secretary of State type things throughout the movie anyway and the only time we see the VP is during the speech.
  • Lastly, the even easier solve to this would've been to make Washington DC a target of the geostorm while Ed Harris is off anywhere else to enjoy his newfound Presidency!

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 01:49 PM

View Posttortoisebeats, on 15 April 2018 - 10:29 AM, said:

Omission:

I'm legitimately surprised no one picked this up, but while the focus of Ed Harris' masterplan was to destroy America's enemies, the secondary part of his plan was to assume the office of President of the United States. Unfortunately, as the Secretary of State, he is 4th in the line of succession behind 1) the Vice President, 2) Speaker of the House of Representatives, 3) President pro tempore of the Senate. The writers of the movie must've worried about someone calling out the chain of succession so they added a single line during the Democratic Convention in Orlando where the VP says "and I'm joined here with the Speaker of the House and the President pro tempore of the Senate to support the President to reelection" in order to show that if Orlando were destroyed, only Ed Harris would be left to take over.

A few problems with this.
  • First of all, the role of President pro tempore of the Senate is way less powerful than a Majority Leader in the Senate, but is assigned by the Majority Leader. Its the reason you would see Mike Pence, Mitch McConnell, and Paul Ryan together on TV or in the news. You wouldn't just randomly start talking about Orrin Hatch instead of Mitch McConnell. Wouldn't a more meaningful statement to make at a political convention to say "I am joined here by the Speaker of the House and the Majority Leader of the Senate."
  • Secondly, wouldn't it be easier to make Ed Harris the VP so that he is more clearly bad guy with the most to benefit? Its not as if Ed Harris was doing Secretary of State type things throughout the movie anyway and the only time we see the VP is during the speech.
  • Lastly, the even easier solve to this would've been to make Washington DC a target of the geostorm while Ed Harris is off anywhere else to enjoy his newfound Presidency!


When I saw Senate pro tempore leader on the big screen, I knew Andy Garcia wasn't bad because there is no reason to ever say those words except when talking about Presidential succession crises or in a middle school pop quiz.


Did anyone think Andy Garcia had more passion for Abby Cornish in the moment she flips the self driving car around and kills all the guys and he says "Marry her!" than the brother with the weird hair ever did?

In the beginning there is that scene where the brother asks her if she would save him or the President and she is like "The President, duh." Maybe they have a secret love for one another and the weird hair brother is just a beard?

I may have indirectly committed myself to writing GEOSTORM fanfic...

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:05 PM

An excellent observation from my wife:

When Gerard Butler is introduced to his team of scientists, they give him a bunch of sass for 5-10 minutes or so, and then near the end of the scene he says his name and they're all like: "You mean you're THE Jake Lawson?!" And yet . . .

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:09 PM

View Posttortoisebeats, on 15 April 2018 - 10:29 AM, said:

Omission:

I'm legitimately surprised no one picked this up, but while the focus of Ed Harris' masterplan was to destroy America's enemies, the secondary part of his plan was to assume the office of President of the United States. Unfortunately, as the Secretary of State, he is 4th in the line of succession behind 1) the Vice President, 2) Speaker of the House of Representatives, 3) President pro tempore of the Senate. The writers of the movie must've worried about someone calling out the chain of succession so they added a single line during the Democratic Convention in Orlando where the VP says "and I'm joined here with the Speaker of the House and the President pro tempore of the Senate to support the President to reelection" in order to show that if Orlando were destroyed, only Ed Harris would be left to take over.

A few problems with this.
  • First of all, the role of President pro tempore of the Senate is way less powerful than a Majority Leader in the Senate, but is assigned by the Majority Leader. Its the reason you would see Mike Pence, Mitch McConnell, and Paul Ryan together on TV or in the news. You wouldn't just randomly start talking about Orrin Hatch instead of Mitch McConnell. Wouldn't a more meaningful statement to make at a political convention to say "I am joined here by the Speaker of the House and the Majority Leader of the Senate."
  • Secondly, wouldn't it be easier to make Ed Harris the VP so that he is more clearly bad guy with the most to benefit? Its not as if Ed Harris was doing Secretary of State type things throughout the movie anyway and the only time we see the VP is during the speech.
  • Lastly, the even easier solve to this would've been to make Washington DC a target of the geostorm while Ed Harris is off anywhere else to enjoy his newfound Presidency!



Yes, I also have to ask, even if Orlando has to be the target, why Ed Harris doesn't just come up with some excuse for why he can't be there? If he wants to survive to be the next President, he should probably be anywhere other than Orlando. Surely this flaw in his evil plan must have occurred to him when he was forced to race out of the city, dodging lightning bolts on the freeway.

Then again, he also pulls the Dr. Evil move when he explains every bit of his evil plan to Jim Sturgess before actually making sure to kill him off, so he might not be all that thoughtful of a villain.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:24 PM

So when Gerard Butler's daughter was watching TV and anxiously awaiting her father's fate on board the space station, I was wondering how any TV network managed to get such glorious high-definition footage of something that is happening IN ORBIT. Does this local station have HD cameras in OUTER SPACE now?

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 04:57 PM

damn that was good acting. i think R. Lee Ermey thought alot of us what swearing really was



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Posted 15 April 2018 - 08:44 PM

View Postfirsttimecallerlongtimelistenr, on 15 April 2018 - 04:57 PM, said:

damn that was good acting. i think R. Lee Ermey thought alot of us what swearing really was



It's because of that great role I now use the term "unfuck" in my life. Also RIP R. Lee Ermey.
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 11:40 PM

So... long timer-first timer opening up an account here for the sole purpose of pointing out that computer wizz, Zazie Beetz, grammar-nazies Jim Sturgess for saying “This is bigger than you and me”, even though he’s actually the one who’s right.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 04:17 AM

Of the many, many things this movie did not understand one of the ones that bothered me most was it's complete ignorance of time zones. At one point in the movie you have a hail storm going on in Tokyo while an arctic front is freezing Rio De Janeiro. Fun fact if you were to drill a hole straight through the Earth from Japan, guess where it would end up? That's right Brazil! They are literally on opposite sides of the Earth so if it is day time in Brazil it would be night in Japan. Yet the two events are happening during both of their days but are suppose to be happening at the same time. Once the storm starts in Brazil we are given a count down clock that states an hour and a half until the geostorm. When the geostorm starts where do we see it hit? Moscow, Dubai, and Mumbai. What do all those places have in common? They are all in Asia which again is on the opposite side of the Earth as Brazil which means all these geostorms would be happening in the dead of night or wee hours of the morning yet they are happening in the middle of their days too!! I mean I get it. Nobody wants to see a dust storm or tidal wave at night. It's just boring and dark, plus their wouldn't have been as many innocent people milling about to murder. But couldn't they have pick different cities though?
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 05:48 AM

View Postsycasey 2.0, on 15 April 2018 - 04:05 PM, said:

An excellent observation from my wife:

When Gerard Butler is introduced to his team of scientists, they give him a bunch of sass for 5-10 minutes or so, and then near the end of the scene he says his name and they're all like: "You mean you're THE Jake Lawson?!" And yet . . .

When I mentioned this episode to my mom, who saw this in theaters with me, she asked if they brought up the fact that his name was on his shirt the whole time they were confused about who he was.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 05:50 AM

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  • Secondly, wouldn't it be easier to make Ed Harris the VP so that he is more clearly bad guy with the most to benefit? Its not as if Ed Harris was doing Secretary of State type things throughout the movie anyway and the only time we see the VP is during the speech.

I started wondering if they were trying to take a dig at Hillary Clinton for being the former SoS that then wanted to become President...
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 06:09 AM

Okay I promise my last comment in a row but I needed to write this down before I forgot.

This weekend I took up the call of Jason and asked my mom, a former American Airlines flight attendant, about how gross everything is on planes. She said that they never thought about the water but yeah he is probably right. They do replace the water after every flight, but there is no gaurantee that they clean the giant tubs that the water goes in. She also said that they all drink the water and wash their hands as normal without a second thought, but she was horrified to hear that people go into those bathrooms barefoot (actually was horrified to hear people take their shoes off on planes at all). Also was horrified to hear that people still use the blankets and pillows because those NEVER EVER GET CLEANED (as we can see from Nicole's terrifying tale of Delta).
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:16 AM

Great episode!

I have, what might be, a controversial suggestion.

I love June and I think she's a great co-host, but I also get that between work and family she hasn't been able to participate as much as she used to. So I was thinking, what if June were to be the "in-studio" co-host and Jessica St. Clair to be the "live" co-host? I feel like this would play to both of their strengths, while still leaving them both plenty of time for their other projects.

I think they're both absolutely fantastic, I really don't want to see either JDR or JSC leave. I know, I'm being greedy, but I think this might be an awesome opportunity.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:58 AM

View Posttaylor anne photo, on 16 April 2018 - 06:09 AM, said:

Okay I promise my last comment in a row but I needed to write this down before I forgot.

This weekend I took up the call of Jason and asked my mom, a former American Airlines flight attendant, about how gross everything is on planes. She said that they never thought about the water but yeah he is probably right. They do replace the water after every flight, but there is no gaurantee that they clean the giant tubs that the water goes in. She also said that they all drink the water and wash their hands as normal without a second thought, but she was horrified to hear that people go into those bathrooms barefoot (actually was horrified to hear people take their shoes off on planes at all). Also was horrified to hear that people still use the blankets and pillows because those NEVER EVER GET CLEANED (as we can see from Nicole's terrifying tale of Delta).

Things in public that are used by everyone everyday are never going to be fully cleaned and at best will be somewhat hospitable since the cleaning crews working in these areas are usually lowest bidder companies. Having worked in a public library for nearly fourteen years now I can attest to how utterly disgusting the public is. People think I'm joking when I say that if you used a black light on a library it would glow bright enough to see from space, but I'm not kidding at all. We literally had three teens SHIT IN THEIR HANDS and smear it on a chair for literal shits and giggles. Then the amount of fooling around by people or hobos getting sick or coming inside with soiled clothes. So whenever you're in public, just realize there is bodily grossness around you somewhere and then just push it to the back of your mind.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:07 AM

View PostCameron H., on 16 April 2018 - 08:16 AM, said:

Great episode!

I have, what might be, a controversial suggestion.

I love June and I think she's a great co-host, but I also get that between work and family she hasn't been able to participate as much as she used to. So I was thinking, what if June were to be the "in-studio" co-host and Jessica St. Clair to be the "live" co-host? I feel like this would play to both of their strengths, while still leaving them both plenty of time for their other projects.

I think they're both absolutely fantastic, I really don't want to see either JDR or JSC leave. I know, I'm being greedy, but I think this might be an awesome opportunity.

(I apologize if this is overstepping my bounds or none of my business.)


I'm loving St. Clair and support any plan to get her in more episodes.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:36 AM

View PostCameron H., on 16 April 2018 - 08:16 AM, said:

Great episode!

I have, what might be, a controversial suggestion.

I love June and I think she's a great co-host, but I also get that between work and family she hasn't been able to participate as much as she used to. So I was thinking, what if June were to be the "in-studio" co-host and Jessica St. Clair to be the "live" co-host? I feel like this would play to both of their strengths, while still leaving them both plenty of time for their other projects.

I think they're both absolutely fantastic, I really don't want to see either JDR or JSC leave. I know, I'm being greedy, but I think this might be an awesome opportunity.

(I apologize if this is overstepping my bounds or none of my business.)


I don't think I'd vote for a structured change like this, but I completely understand the sentiment of wanting Jessica involved on a permanent basis. She fits in perfectly. I'm for the laissez-faire approach and I imagine everyone involved in the show will have projects in the future that will give her more co-hosting opportunities if she is willing and able.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:12 PM

After the car chase between The Prez's crew in the electric car and Evil Mr. Bean, Ed Harris and one of his cronies set up a rocket launcher to take them down as they come barreling down the highway. The car comes into view as predicted and is then taken out by the launcher - bing bang boom - but the President et al were not in the car after all... that's right, they sent in a decoy while they came in from the side like Raptors on an Australian dude. Soooo... How exactly did they make this happen? Just a brick on the gas pedal and a prayer? Or was it another scenerio where they tricked some poor sap to be a decoy driver.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:37 PM

View PostPollyDarton, on 16 April 2018 - 09:12 PM, said:

After the car chase between The Prez's crew in the electric car and Evil Mr. Bean, Ed Harris and one of his cronies set up a rocket launcher to take them down as they come barreling down the highway.

This just raised another question for me, and that is why did they even have a rocket launcher? Their plan was to have the president babble on at the convention while they sneak out in time for Florida to be destroyed right? When were they planning on using a rocket launcher? Where did that fit in the plan? It's a highly specialized weapon for special circumstances and not something they'd just keep in the back off their car for shits and giggles. Were they going to blow something up with it and then try to blame it on the geostrom? If so what? They flew in, so that means Ed Harris had to request for it be brought along, and now I really want to know what they had planned to use it for!
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Posted 17 April 2018 - 04:48 AM

View PostPollyDarton, on 16 April 2018 - 09:12 PM, said:


That car was driving awful straight for there to be no driver.



This is the one part of the movie that is air-tight. When Secret Service Girlfriend sees what their escape vehicle is she says in disgust something along the lines of "you got a self driving cab?" If only she had read a little farther in the script she'd have known there was a HUGE payoff coming.