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(Ah sorry for my typo... I have not had any caffeine yet...) I think this is feminist to a point for sure. In 1982 I'm sure some men saw this for Hoffman and it probably blew their minds but I completely agree that it's very basic, and it's a very surface level take on feminism for sure. I totally forgot for a second that 9 to 5 was made a full two years prior so it's even worse now in my opinion lol. For some reason I was just convinced this came first and then 9 to 5 just improved on the women in the workplace conversation.... yet.... nah they did it first and fucking fantastically. Why isn't 9 to 5 on this list!? (Quick sidebar but Dolly Parton did NOT win the Oscar for the song 9 to 5 and I'm pissed cause "Fame" won and literally it beat both Dolly and Willie Nelson's On the Road Again.... what the fuck Academy???)

I'm definitely for kicking this one off the list. Oddly, I'd support The Sixth Sense being on the list over this one, only because it actually did something for the genre. Here, I think it's fine. But for a movie about empathizing with women, there are so. many. dudes. All the main characters in the film are men; jessica Lange and Teri Garr are both just there for Hoffman to have his big "ah hah" moment. The female executive who hires Dorothy is definitely a character I'd like to have seen more of. It's not really about women at all, and I definitely don't see it as a "Feminist" movie. No, Hoffman in a dress isn't the joke itself, but the fact the homophobia from Julie's dad when Hoffman gives the ring back really bothered me. As far as dudes in drag for work, I'd much prefer Some Like it Hot. That did it so much better, and was so much funnier and warmer. None of this is to take away any inspiration this movie may have played in people's lives in opening up their minds to non-traditional gender expressions. I just don't find this movie holds up so well, and I don't understand at all why it's considered one of the top 100.

Can we get a Mantzoukas/Time Keeper crossover episode? Tick tock, Tick Tock Man!

9 to 5 is a perfect movie and should be recognized as such

That’s a damned impressive catch, Eagle Eye...

Yeah, same here. Thought the b&w was beautiful, but the romance/love story left me...cold. Oy yoi yoi.

It's become a dream of mine to get famous enough that Jamie and Caitlin invite me on and they can tear my favorite movie apart lol.

I love that podcast too, and would love to hear their take on Tootsie. It most definitely fails the Bechdel test. I'm not even sure two women talk to each other, let alone about something other than men. This is so blatantly a movie by bros trying (at least seemingly genuinely) to be woke, and failing. I mean, Geena Davis is literally only there to provide exposition while in her underwear. I suppose, like pin ups in men's lifestyle magazines, straight men can watch this and still be confident in their straightness; look! naked ladies! That reminds me, I did like how Dustin Hoffman reacted to people questioning whether he was gay. I think that was pretty good. The rest of the movie, meh.

Booooooo! I just check to see if The Bechdel Cast has covered it but alas they have not. I think it would be very fascinating to hear a specific take on this movie. (That podcast has covered Mrs. Doubtfire and She's The Man in terms of other cross-dressing movies.)

I don't think it does pass, come to think of it. No two (real) women talk to each other that I can recall.

Yeah, that was my Letterboxd review “Tootsie is a great movie even though at times it feels like the chauvinistic equivalent of the “white-savior” trope (penis-savior?) That being said, it never feels like it’s being purposefully condescending or malicious. It’s trying to do something good, but I’d argue that maybe 9 to 5 does it better?”

I had a hard time with even the concept of why Hoffman wanted to dress up as a woman to begin with, ya know? At least in Some Like It Hot and in Mrs. Doutbfire you completely understand more so why they are doing the cross-dressing, but I feel like this character in Tootsie has a really thinly veiled reason and even though that's like the main reason for why he figures out he is wrong it was really hard for me to get past that and watch as this shitty dude realizes how rough women actually have it. And I believe it was Cameron who said (please correct me if I'm wrong) that this is SUCH a man savior movie and I could not agree more. I decided not to rewatch it but I'm wondering if I should to see if this even passes the Bechdel Test (Dorothy doesn't count since the person in the dress does not actually identify as a woman).

Brannaugh's description is wild: "Tootsie is a superb comedy of deceptive simplicity. It at once parodies satirises and glorifies art, acting, cinema, TV and modernity at large. Hoffman is magnificent, Murray is sublime, and Jessica Lange's radiance is heart-stopping." It's like the feminist parts of it don't exist. He loves it for spoofing television! Out of all of Tootsie's points, "look how crazy soap operas are" is pretty far down the list.

511 minutes too short

I agree with the general consensus here: it's a good movie, competently made and well-acted (Teri Garr really is terrific), but I'm not seeing where it's good enough or important enough to remain on the Top 100. Some Like It Hot is absolutely the better cross-dressing rom-com and it's already on the list. Dustin Hoffman is already represented. I don't think Sydney Pollack is an important enough director to require inclusion, but if he were I'd rather have They Shoot Horses, Don't They? I'm with @Cameron H. in thinking that the ending is a problem. It doesn't really tie up the storyline very well, and to me more importantly it feels like a cop-out. Whether or not the Jessica Lange character is romantically interested in our leading man or they are just friends, I think it happens way too fast that she forgives him for his lying. It feels to me like the filmmakers think that because the movie must be classified as a "Comedy," they have to manufacture a happy ending. How about grappling with the larger implications of your premise first? This is also where the movie really feels like a "feminist" film entirely coming from the perspective of straight men. The "resolution" is just about how one straight dude learned to be a bit less selfish, even after putting a whole lot of people's careers at risk with a self-interested stunt. I would cut it some slack for this, but as was mentioned, 9 to 5 was already out and clearly has a more female-centered slant to it. I don't even think that's necessarily a better movie (the direction is pretty weak IMO), but as a historical artifact it's more interesting. Anyway, that all sounds like I'm really negative on the movie, but I'm not. It was an enjoyable watch, just not Top 100 material.

I just tested it. Yes, it works.

I haven't listened to the episode yet, but all I could think of was in the All the President's Men and the part about the director complaining about Hoffman over-acting. As Michael, Hoffman is fine, but as Dorothy, all I could think was he's going full-on Chickenlady with his mannerisms and tics.

My mind was blown when it was revealed that “Michael Bay” seemingly lives in Parma, OH which is only about twenty minutes away from where I live. Maybe I should stop by their library and see which of their librarians is a big Transformers fan.

^ Oh god, I hated that episode. I watched it for the first time today. It is fine, but yeah, Why is it on the AFI Top 100? And why did these movies fall out of the list and not this one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI's_100_Years...100_Movies#2007_update_notes

I was confused as to why Mary Lou Maloney was in the "W" section of the yearbook.

Aye, but Russell Brand also says "Cor blimey, I got my Mr nobby caught in me Zippy Whip."

It's trailers like this that remind me that Luc Besson could make some amazing action films with female leads, but it also reminds me that Lucy had a similar action-filled trailer before I realized in the theater watching it that it was an utter brainfart. I really hope Anna is more like La Femme Nikita instead of Lucy.

Yes he does and I had a real problem with that! It annoyed me that the movie was constantly telling us, “OMG guys! Women are human too! Who’d a thunk? ...But not homosexuals. That’s too far” The threat of violence - even as a joke - is certainly a far cry from Some Like it Hot’s “Well nobody’s perfect.” Yeah, I think I’m going to have to drop it on my list. As I said before, I’m wrestling with the light, frothy, 80’s-comedy watchability of the movie. It’s the first time I’ve really questioned what my personal AFI list is trying to do. Am I ranking the movies on personal enjoyment or overall worthiness? Up until Tootsie, for me anyway, they were pretty much one in the same, but now I have to rethink it (and maybe some other films) ETA: Tootsie just took a massive tumble on my list. Not quite last, but close.

Those salty knockers are knocking me flat, I should pay more attention while walking around the salt lamp store.