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I actually suggested this as an HDTGM film, not because I think it’s bad (I’d give it a C+, for reasons I’ll get into) but because it’s insanely 80s (which I’m sure June would enjoy) and also intensely problematic. Here’s what I said: This will be a controversial choice. I just watched this. Here are the things that are good about this movie.  1. Prince’s opening and closing performances. 2. Morris Day (who’s also fucking awesome). Acting-wise, he’s the best thing in this film. Pretty much every scene he’s in is funny. And his music numbers are entertaining. otherwise, holy shit,Prince is a fucking asshole in this film. And I’m a Prince fan. I’m legitimately surprised that he allowed himself to look THIS bad. Perhaps he thought he was giving off a tortured artist vibe—and the film is semi-autobiographical—but he treats Appolonia (and pretty much all the women around him) like shit. Why her character is romantically drawn to him is a totally underdeveloped mystery, since he abuses her fairly routinely. Also: I will go out on a limb and say Computer Blue is a terrible song. So is Appolonia’s song. Dont get me wrong, the soundtrack to this movie largely kicks ass and some of the musical sequences are great (and besides Morris Day, they’re the main reason to watch the film). But man, there’s some dark stuff here that’s given a superficial 80s music-video style treatment, and it’s pretty fucking jarring. i know people—especially Jason—would object, but I would be interested in hearing Jason, June and Paul take an honest look at this film. I know this film has an iconic reputation, but goddamn is it problematic

Re: The Calls I feel like I've really made my stance on them clear by this point, but I do feel like it would be nice to keep calls to the "advice" part of the show and the forum for the C&Os part of the show. I feel like the forums are already losing a lot of their oomph, especially now that Who Charted is completely behind a paywall and Unspooled only looks at Facebook, also because lol the few bad apples from here. The more they accept calls for C&Os the more they let people know that's the way to go, and then they get bombarded with 500 calls telling Paul what the definition of "jam" is.

LOL--Dhani Harrison!

You're not wrong about Prince being an incredible musician and magnetic personality. I know it's not related to the film but it seems every year at the super bowl someone posts his Super Bowl performance, which is amazing

I’m going to honest, I ran out of time last night and wasn’t able to finish. I hope to later today. So far, I’m really enjoying it. Prince was an absolutely phenomenal musician and didn’t get near enough accolades for his guitar playing.

What's a jam tho

I agree. @gigi-tastic and I are extremely smart But so are you! In fact, everyone on the boards is smarter than 95% of the people I interact with irl.

Nerd gets transformed into a hunk by selling his soul to the devil. Thought this movie was amazing as kid, but I'm certain the gang can skewer it much like they did Howard the Duck! Wish it could be done at the Austin show as I will be in attendance!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHXFpWT8cds

yeah I generally agree with you on this point. Great musical performances but Prince comes across as an asshole

My favorite part of this is Prince throwing the guitar in the air and it just disappears into the ether.

I'm blanking here, who is the Milo Ventmillia looking guy playing acoustic next to Tom Petty

All in all, there were parts that I really enjoyed, but it felt like it was two films in one—a fun one and a dark one about abuse—that didn’t mesh successfully for me.

I watched most of Under the Cherry Moon last night. I think I have a half-hour left to go.

I liked it generally. There were a couple points I really enjoyed. I thought they were throwaway comments earlier and then they were referenced and used later. Unfortunately I can't remember them right now darn it.

Clearly “jam” in the stuff that gets between your toes—much like how the nerdlucks have inserted themselves in Tuneville.

I agree with both @gigi-tastic and @Cameron H. (they are very smart and it is just wise to agree with them), but even though I went on to clarify my comment further in the board pages, and engaged in debate with people who expressed their opinions in ways more eloquent than I did, it felt like the "fuck you" that I got was much more playful and funny than what the callers get sometimes because I had a complete thought that was then read by Paul. It's just easier to riff off of a full statement than a fuzzy phone call, and so the riffs spawned of of the message board comments are usually just funnier because we put in more work in with our comments. The Marvin the Martian thing is a perfect example.

I worry about sort of the opposite thing. I worry that as new people on the boards they may feel discouraged by their "work" so to speak, being overlooked in favor of calls that essentially day the same thing. Especially when, as you mentioned, often the people who are on the boards tend to write the questions/ observations on a more engaging and interesting way than how the callers phrase things. I think part of that is due to the general awkward nature of leaving a voice mail message but also partly because I think on the boards we take out time and can really go at a subject. I don't know I just feel like sometimes on the boards we are more passionate and interested in the subject. I don't mind the calls I just think that we have some really good content on here and I love it .

That and the “Tune/Toon Squad” call were points brought up on the boards (which Grudlian already corrected, and in all fairness, could easily be a case of parallel thinking). The only reason I’m not more annoyed by this is because both points were made by new posters. That’s not to say it isn’t less wrong or annoying, just that I don’t know them and maybe the people who wrote the posts also called in to double their chance of getting on the mini? I’m not saying that’s what definitely happened, but I don’t know them at all, whereas if it were someone like you or Taylor Anne or another regular, I’d know for a fact you wouldn’t do that. Still, in cases where the same point is brought up, I do wish they would give the edge to the boards—or at the very least, to the person with the most panache. I mean, it took the Tune Squad caller 30 seconds to ask what the person on the boards asked in 14 words and an image, yet he didn’t actually add anything that made his stand out. I mean, I totally get we can all (including and definitely myself) get verbose on here, and I love hearing/reading everyone’s point. And if you’ve got a good insight, joke, or hook at the end of it all, I’m all in. But if it’s a pretty basic observation without any flair in the writing/telling, and it’s not relevant to the point you’re making, I really don’t need your name, rank, and serial number. “Why “Tune” not “Toon?” (Four words ) is totally sufficient. Again, while I don’t exactly hate the phoned in C&O’s, I definitely prefer the written ones. In my opinion, they just tend to come across as more well-thought out and encourage a community that exists outside of just the show. It becomes a discussion rather than regurgitation. In my opinion, as long as we’re allowing phone calls, my preference would be to only use the calls that are truly original. This would eliminate any suspicions (rightly or not) of “that was ripped off the boards!” It also gives the call more of a reason for being outside of just being, “It’s the exact same point, but it makes the episode more dynamic.”

Paul did NOT like my perspective that Disney films are also a commercial enterprise. I got fuck-you'd pretty definitively. Yikes. I laffed. And was that Marvin the Martian phone comment, about Marvin being impartial because his is both from space and a Looney Tune, another example of a call almost directly quoting a message board comment? I feel like I did hear it before (or at least read it)

Hey, You're back! I have not seen High and Low - I wouldn't describe my knowledge of Kurosawa as complete. But I did wonder about the boy's obsession with Native Americans and having him basically mimic how a lot of Americans have treated the issue up until... actually not that long ago. Tribute to old westerns? Is it the Park's family imitation of how they view America (which given how it's how Americans viewed their own mythology only a few decades ago is also an extra layer of commentary)? Is it just an allusion to other cinema that Bong likes? Reference to the Native American genocide? I don't really track down interviews with the director, but that is definitely something I'd be curious what the authorial intent was.

But to be fair, my real name isn't "Cameron H," but actually "Oedipus Flex." Strange world...

As I said in the episode thread, Paul is wrong and Cody is right about the songs being written for the movie. Yet he persists in his incorrect belief on Twitter. They use the name "Swackhammer" which is the name of DeVito's character. I didn't even remember his name until Genius pointed it out. ETA That is my real name, guys. I know you are shocked that my parents didn't Christen me Elektra Boogaloo.