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Here's a minor spoiler: If Logan Echolls is the most emotionally mature person on screen then you know you've got a problem.

How has she not grown? She was already more mature than everyone. I get some mature people go through a second adolescence to make up for not having one but that's not Veronica Mars. We heard her over monologue. We know who she is. I'm not expecting her to feel super old, but I expect gett to be a totally put together adult. I haven't even watched it yet and I'm angry. Why?

100% And to comment on your previous post, I can't even remember what happens specifically in that first episode cause I binged them all at once lol. But I have a lot more feelings about the writing and the season itself before even the thing that you know happens that made me angry lol. Which like lol I feel telling Grudlian the quality was good while also saying THE WRITING SUCKED seems hypocritical but like you said earlier, the production value is on point and you can tell everyone brought their A game for it, but also it TOTALLY is reductive and feels off.

This is definitely part of my issue as well, but not because of them bringing it back - I was honestly in the camp of I would watch VM do her shit until she was Golden Girls age - but rather her characterization at this point. She's an adult acting the same as she did as a teenager, and that's fucking frustrating to watch. Not even a spoiler for Grudlian, because as Cameron said, all of that is really in the first episode.

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I finished Graffiti Bridge. It's enjoyable but light. Prince is still a jerk but figures it out at the end. A friend of mine said he's seen it several times so it's not a bad movie. Prince wrote and directed it. Almost makes me wish he had done that with Purple Rain. It's very spiritually-focused, with Heaven & Hell as big themes.

I get your point but I also get Hulu's point. I certainly don't care if the show has swearing or violence but I don't want it to feel like they are R rated just because they can be.

Yeah, it’s pretty much what @taylor anne photo said. She’s older, but she hasn’t really grown up. Like, you can go 12 Seasons w/ JB Fletcher because she’s already in her 50’s at the start of the series. But a now 30-something shouldn’t still be acting like she did at 17. That’s why I think the movie worked so well for me even though I hadn’t seen the series. She’s trying to decide what to do with her life, and at the end, she makes a decision. You didn’t need the series to get that. Now it’s just like...she’s a private eye, I guess?

This is kind of my vague worry. At this point, she's just a private eye, right (I assume it's a bit more complex but whatever)? Plus all the high school drama makes less sense if everyone is in their 30s. Why am I watching this beyond nostalgia? I'd be fine with her just being Columbo or Jessica Fletcher solving murders. I don't need her to be Veronica Mars.

Yeah, I totally agree, and maybe I could have worded that better. I think that’s why I like to end it with the movie because you really felt she had grown and she’s where she either wants or needs to be. The new season felt reductive.

I'm still angry. I woudn't even say that the quality is bad... there are just some decisions made by the show that are bad... like... really bad...

You might be fine then. I actually watched the movie first, binged the show, re-watched the movie, and then tried the new season, so everything was pretty fresh. Honestly, I can’t even tell you why I didn’t like the new season anymore. I just remember watching the first ep and being like, “I don’t want to watch anymore.” IIRC, part of my issue was that she’s an adult rather than a teenager so it loses some of its charm. It would be like if Neil Patrick Harris brought back Doogie Howser. Who wants to watch a show about an adult Doogie?

You'd be surprised how much internet fervor I miss. I don't really do social media much. Oof. I was going in with low expectations but this is worrying. I thought the movie was okay but an unnecessary coda. I'm not going to be the best judge. I haven't seen the show since, idk, 2009? Even when the movie came out, I couldn't remember much of anyone's backstory or names (for example, I don't know who Gia is or why I should be upset that she died). So, if there is something super crazy, I might just fall back on "This isn't how I remember the show, but maybe I'm just forgetting it all????"

We watched the first episode and decided the movie was a fitting ending. I do, however, know what happens. I stand by my decision

I actually loved the movie so I would say worse lol. Honestly I'm surprised you haven't heard anything about it by now. The internet was literally on fire because of it. ETA: I say I love the movie but I am still pissed off they killed Gia. JUSTICE FOR GIA!!!

Taking nominations for this weekend's side movie. Maybe Gregory Peck in The Purple Plain?

My legs cramp when its damp, and they jerk when its derk. I beg my legs, "Go slack and kick back." And then? They kick my dick.

If I were a rich man, I would buy myself a truck.

Good one

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