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One of my all time favorite bad movies. They make no excuses of what this is but holy shit is it amazing. This is the kind of movie that is tailor made for HDTGM. "You think is a fuckin' costume? This is a way of life!" - Suicide

I doubt they would ever do this movie but everytime I watch it I leave thinking "Wtf did I just watch?". -Who is Green Eyes? * -Why is the repeating musical theme comedic in tone? * -If Frank Langella was willing to kill everyone for the other books why even send Corso at all? * -How did the black albino not notice a red Ferrari tailing him for hours on an empty highway? * -Why does Green Eyes use kung fu? * -Who killed Bernie and hung him up like the engraving? * -Are the chefs seen in the mansion kitchen part of some Satanic orgy catering service? * -Who could maintain an erection while banging an obvious demon outside of a burning castle? * -Did none of the cult members notice Green Eyes FLYING down to Corso in the mansion? * -Why doesn't the manly French secretary tell the police Corso murdered her boss? * -Did God try to kill Corso with the falling scaffolding? Can't God just kill whoever he wants whenever? * -Wouldn't Corso ask "wtf is wrong with your weird eyes?" at some point? * -Are the book store twins one actor in horrible split screen?? Why?? * -Why would Corso leave Green Eyes alone in the car at the last gas station after her other vanishing acts? * -Why does Corso run down steps to escape the albino and then walk up the next steps about ten feet away to the same street the albino was on? * -Green Eyes stops Corso from saving Lena Olin from Frank Langella because "he just committed a murder in public. Now you're off the hook for the other murders." WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO CALL THE POLICE FROM AN ELITE BILLIONAIRE SATANIC SEX ORGY??? And if Green Eyes is helping Corso go through the Ninth Gate why the fuck would she care about his police entanglements? Do arrest warrants carry over to Hell?? * -Wtf happens at the end???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T5mhtHf8T4

OK newbie here. How does 'Musical Mondays' work? When do we discuss what we watch?

The following year he was in this movie Wanted: Dead or Alive with Rutger Hauer in which he plays terrorist Malak Al "Rahim" who is being tracked down by CIA agent Nick "Randall". Both kinda close to Ram-K and Ramsay. I think you may be on to something.

I think it’s funny that in Never Too Young to Die Gene Simmons is trying to get the “RAM-K” and in Runaway he’s trying to get “Ramsay.” Do you think Gene Simmons’ blossoming acting career was derailed by typecasting?

Are you suggesting that this movie isn't as good as Mission: Impossible?

In a shocking twist, Cameron H is smarter than the bozos who wrote this movie!

Is the biker-filled club where Stamos sees Velvet Von Ragner for the first time the same biker-filled club Whatshisnuts rescues Diane Lane from in Streets of Fire?

Elder Stargrove doesn’t know his left from his right.

I looked this up as soon as they mentioned it and it blew my mind!

Okay, the Kiss Kaskets were brought up. Dimebag Darrell and his brother, Vinnie Paul were buried in them. So, if it's good enough for Vinnie and Dime of Pantera, then it's good enough for everybody else. But, Kiss Kaskets are just the tip of the iceberg. Some other "interesting" merch items. - "Tongue Lubricated" Kiss Kondoms - Kiss Mr Potato Head - Kiss Checkers - Kiss Air Guitar Strings On top of all that Gene Simmons was recently selling his own branded "Gene Simmons Vault". And for $2000, you get 10 CDs, with over 150 unreleased songs featuring a who's who of music, as well as a special edition action figure, a comemorative "In Gene We Trust" coin, and a special book with unseen pictures throughout his career. And the best part is? Gene will deliver it to you personally! He did not respond when I asked him if he would chuck some Shannon Tweed movies in there for that price.

Do you mean when they were talking about Velvet's costume for the Incinerator Club show? They said that Linda Carter wore that same outfit to perform a Kiss song.

How old is Lance and Vanity supposed to be? I assumed that was college but the dude in the limo said he couldn't get to any money until he was 21 so he's supposedly 18-20, and Vanity is..... 25???

So, this came out a year after Gymkata, a movie where a gymnast whose father is "killed" during the opening credits and the son is tasked with taking over the father's mission. I guess they didn't like the result of having a proper gymnast in the role instead of an actor, so they put in a Stamos. Note: I guess this puts an end to any delusion that the hosts pore over the recommendation forums looking for suggestions, since this movie was recommended in 2012 and Paul had never heard of it until recently. ;)

Even for being a genius inventor in the 80s he wasn't once referred to as a nerd that nobody wanted around! He was maybe even more useful than Lance was considering how willing he was to also jump into action. What disappointed me was that Cliff didn't get to answer for himself when he was also offered a position as a spy, but he didn't protest and I guess went back to college too but I would think he would've been much happier building things that could be used to help people.

I think something needs to be said for how progressive Cliff's performance is, considering the context of when this movie was made. He's an Asian-American supporting character from the 80's that doesn't speak with an embarrassing accent or make offensive Asian metaphors. The fact that he's Asian-American isn't even referenced, which seems pretty much unthought of back then. Granted, he's a genius inventor, which could be considered a stereotype, but at least it's not an offensive one, which was a rarity.

I figured Ragnar had Lance figured by seeing him with Danja, and because Pyramid had seen him at the stables. By shouting "Stargrove" at him, Ragnar was just checking to see what kind of reaction he'd get and whether Lance would cave right there. For being a top-level spy (or spy adjacent), Danja's not so great at being inconspicuous.

Thus Lance saying "name" is what tipped off Ragnar that he was there under false pretenses, leading to the bug sweep. Never underestimate the mental acuity of Velvet von Ragnar.

It's all a result of Road Warrior/Mad Max 2 which predated all of these.

Yeah, I knew he was a bad guy from the way the camera lingered, but I didn't realize it was Ragnar until he said he's close. Then it was obvious. Similarly, I had no idea that Ragnar was Simmons until I saw the tongue and looked up the cast,

Hilarious episode. My favorite part of the movie had to be Cliff. He is an absolute first ballot entry into the Roommate Hall of Fame. There is a good chance that Cliff and Lance never met before getting randomly paired up for their dorm assignment. Then a year or two later absolutely no questions asked he is a killing machine against impossible odds to help out Lance. Normally you are just happy if you have a roommate that keeps things relatively clean. Cliff puts everyone to shame. I don't know if the movie made this explicitly clear but Ragnar killed Carruthers and then assumed his identity, right? It makes me think the real Carruthers must not have had a great working relationship with his coworkers if no one in this organization ever batted an eye at his replacement. Also he must have had no friends or family to notice that he had gone missing. That unseen character is really bumming me out.

Watching this film, it struck me that If John Stamos at some point doesn't play Zac Efron's dad (if he hasn't already) it will be a true shame.

Watching Ragnar's crazy crew of punks (especially Pyramid), I couldn't help but think of Bobcat Goldthwaite's gang of similar psychopaths in Police Academy 2, which came out the year before. One would think perhaps it was the influence of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, but that came out the same year as Police Academy 2. Weird Science (also 1985 like Police Academy 2 and Beyond Thunderdome) also featured insane marauders. So, what the heck was happening in the mid-'80s that gangs of post-apocalyptic mutants were a big element in all these films?

Yeah, this would work as a 'OMG THIS MOVIE IS AMAZING' episode. Because, ya know, OMG THIS MOVIE IS AMAZING.

While this movie IS terrible, it's also probably too disturbing to make a bunch of people watch it. because it has shit-eating and rape.