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I was just thinking, if Kendra's ultimate goal was to teach Kyle that looks aren't important and that it's your inner beauty that counts, then why change him back at all? Why reward him with the thing that caused him to be a rotten person in the first place? I dunno, I would maybe turn him back into a 5 or 6.

I was actually thinking that at first but thought maybe it was too weird. BRAIN TWINS! I didn't go the black magic route I just assumed she was like an immortal being which is why she couldn't take her kid with her. So she popped back into his life did NOT like what she saw and decided to ground him . God what I would have given for a scene where he petulantly screamed something about her not being his real parent/ her not having the authority to punish him . I like your idea much more though.

What if, in the sequel, Zola plays the Fraulein Maria to the dad's Captain Von Trapp? Now with her children in tow, she and they bring song and sunshine to the dad's beastly form to help him learn the lessons of true family love.

Cant wait, the episode has already been recorded and reports from around the time say that it was “funny”.

Like Snorks?

What if the movie ended with us watching her high heels get off the elevator, stop in front of his desk, and then, from off screen, you hear Anchor Dad say, “Beverly?” Credits.

Not to mix Disney classics but if Kyle is going to buy Lindy's love why doesn't he pull an Aladdin and take her on a trip somewhere? It would get him out of the city which his dad clearly wants and they clearly can afford it. Hell he knows how oddly obsessed she is with Machu Picchu, take her to South America! I feel like she would love that more than she would candy. I mean I love candy but if I was forced into this kind of weird living situation I'd definitely choose a trip somewhere over fucking Swedish Fish or whatever it was. Not only is it a way for him to show he knows her but the two could bond on the trip. Budget wise I understand why they don't do that but they could have them prepare for a big trip THEN have her dad od the day they were supposed to leave. It would show how selfless Kyle had become (really like the bare minimum in that situation) if he were to insist they not go and instead whisk her off to her dad instead of just putting her on a train after a day at the lake house. It gives it more stakes.

I'd just like to point out that while it might be horribly impractical, it would technically be possible to drive from New York to Machu Picchu. Peru is in South America, so you wouldn't have to cross any oceans. The only thing I questioned was crossing the Panama Canal, but it appears there have been two working road bridges across that since 2003. All clear for the bus to Machu Picchu!

I love it! I don’t want to step on your toes, but how do you feel about this: what if Kendra was his mom? She leaves because she’s fed up with their nonsense, dives into black magic, and glamours herself to look like a teenager. This might explain her fixation with Kyle and his father...

I loved the cuckoo bananas progression of Lindy and “Hunter’s” meet up. When she first arrives, Lindy yells into the house that she’ll “tase” him if he comes near her. After this, “Hunter” brings her supper and attempts to explain what’s going on, and she tells him to fuck right the Hell off. Then, weeks later, she just casually walks in on him while he’s watching Korean television and is like, “So are we ever going to meet or what?” I also thought it was funny that when he brings her dinner, she steadfastly refuses to open the door for him, but the next couple of times he knocks, she opens the door within seconds, and he scurries away. It’s like the movie suddenly forgot who was avoiding whom.

You know what I found distracting? The way the prosthetic didn’t quite get attached to his face in the corner of his right eye. Sometimes due to the lighting you could see a big gap there. Should’ve filled the space with more silver caulk.

Space: the final paywall

A noseless smurf is nightmare fuel.

I thought it was really weird that she doesn't seem to see him or even turn her head to look around when he's watching her open the series of gifts.

When Kyle is in his "beastly" state he has all these open wounds. If you look at them, gross I know but just look quickly, there are metal bits in the wounds. At first I thought these were medical staples keeping the wound together but all of them are in the wound. A medical staple would be on either side and closing the wound but these are inside. What are they and why are they there? I found them horribly distracting.

That's what I'm saying! It's horse shit!

They fact that Kyle’s mother abandoned him is painted as this tragic event in his life, but has anyone considered that maybe she had to just get herself out of what was most likely a living nightmare? Maybe she just couldn’t take the lack of attention and Kyle’s father’s unrealistic demands anymore. There’s nothing in the movie to suggest that Kyle’s father became the douche he is now because she left. Maybe she saw what a terrible person he was, and saw that her son was falling in lock-step behind him, and was like, “Nope. I’m out.” Also, minor quibble, but the gang suggested that Zola was at least partially to blame for how Kyle turned out because she helped raise him, but she says in the movie that she hasn’t seen her 6-year-old child for “half his life.” That means, at most, she’s only been with Kyle and his father for three years - not since childhood. She probably didn’t even meet him until he was 13 or 14. That’s plenty of time for a spoiled little monster to get set in his ways. I’m not really sure how much influence she’s expected to have at that point - positive or otherwise. (Also, I got the vibe she was more of a housekeeper than an au pair, but I could be wrong about that.)

He would lose his job, but I have to assume he’s has a strong investment portfolio. He could also sell his place in the city to get by for a little bit. Plus, Will might have his sight back, but he’s definitely out of his cushy job. It’s not like they need a tutor once Kyle is handsome enough to go back to school. So, as much as I agree that Kyle didn’t learn a goddamn thing, I don’t think money would be that much of a motivator in helping his father.

I would have to agree with you. I don't really think Kyle changed. I think he realized he was an asshole but that was more because he wants to break the curse and get the girl than any real soul searching in my opinion. To be honest I'm not sure such a curse could change someone like Kyle (or his dad ) into better people. Because they would always be partly motivated to break it to get their looks back . I'm not sure how genuine that kind of transformation can be if it's still motivated by vanity.

If he truly learned then yes he helps his dad, as it emphasizes the son's growth while also showing the dad what kind of a prick he truly is. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the first time the dad sees himself in a mirror after being changed, and knowing what his son had to go through, just decides to put a gun in his mouth or jump out a window to save himself the torment he thinks he will suffer.

I about lost my mind when the opening song is just the word "vanity" over and over as he works out and then it cuts to building-sized ads featuring statuesque models. Let's not forget that in the book it's revealed that the housekeeper was actually Kendra in disguise the whole time, basically watching over Kyle to see if he was truly changing his ways. And the only reason that the book takes over two years is because Kendra saw him take a picture with Lindy at the dance and felt that was enough to warrant him getting a bigger chance at redemption. Also was Kendra just wearing wigs everywhere? In one scene she has the big blonde up-do with streaks in it, then it's a short bob that is jet black, and then what is meant to be the very next day she's back to long, blonde, and wavy.

Is this woman on the far right side supposed to be in a Belle costume? I thought it might be Dorothy from Wizard Of Oz because of the red shoes but this has to be intentional right?

that makes me feel like there some staff on this movie who were consciously sabotaging it from the inside

Yes! There's a moment where she confesses her feelings for Kyle to "Hunter" and he seems to try and encourage her not to feel that way. As I was watching. I was like, "What are you doing?" She obviously likes you as a person, and she's already attracted to Kyle. If you just explain to her, "Yeah, I'm him. Here's what happened..." who knows what might happen? It might actually expedite an "I love you" from her and end the curse quicker! I mean, that's the goal, isn't it? Why would you encourage her to hate Kyle? You're the same fucking person, dipshit! When the curse is broken, that's who she's going to end up with, not "Hunter." Honestly, that scene drove me crazy because as she's telling him all of this she's basically like, "It's funny, but you kind of remind me of him. Weird. Anyway, he mysteriously disappeared right around the time you showed up in my life..."

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