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Just a heads up, I misheard the the 2nd Question in Ask Paul segment. I’m kinda mortified. I thought she said, her friends who had been together for 18years brokeup and she was upset that she was listed as his emergency contact. Since she wasn’t in the reationship, I asked why are you so angry at him? Which is a terrible response. That’s what I get for prepping C&Os and answering VMs. We will delete it.

Anastasia y'all!!!!!!!!

Yearly bump for this strange movie. Its just so goddamn weird. Theres so many running threads throughout the movie, theres at least a dozen different plotlines that are followed and each one is more inexplicable than the next.

Me love you long time listener, first time catchphrase submitter.

I think it took me longer to read this thread than it did to listen to the podcast. I hope we can get this level of conversation next week about All The President's Men, too! This is a film that's really making me question how I'm voting, because I've been able to just vote for "best" and not "most influential" and still feel pretty good about that. This film falls short of my "best" border, but I couldn't bring myself to vote no without reading what everyone had to say here. After reading the thread and checking the poll, maybe I'm not alone, since only 8 people have voted? So indulge me in the following breakdown: Q: Does the list need to have a Disney animated film? A: Disney animated films are among the few pieces of cinema that one can say legitimately changed the world. Amy talked last week about the global knowledge and enthusiasm for Chaplin. Double or triple that for Disney. So let's say yes. Q: If yes, then what is the best Disney animated film? A: This is the sticking point. Is it the one that tells the best story? The one with the best songs? The one with the most groundbreaking animation? Should we give up on picking the best one and instead just pick the "Disneyest" Disney movie, which would be a slightly problematic princess movie (that's kind of their brand, it's in their logo after all), like Snow White, Cinderella, or Sleeping Beauty? For the early films (first decade), my favorite is Bambi, though I could understand having concerns because it doesn't have the best songs (although "Drip Drip Drop Little April Showers" is my fucking jam). My pick for the most complete film made during Walt's lifetime is The Jungle Book, which is notable as the last film Walt worked on, has a well-told story with memorable characters, has a couple bangers on the soundtrack, and inspired millions of children to read Rudyard Kipling only to be disappointed to discover that King Louie isn't a character in the Kipling version. My personal childhood favorite Disney film was Robin Hood, which, as Amy and Paul pointed out, made generations of children have strange sexual feelings for foxes, and today is the go-to reference for all my socialist and communist meme-master friends. But besides the "Oo-De-Lally" theme song, none of the musical numbers are particularly memorable. My childhood wheelhouse was the stretch with Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and The Lion King. I'd buy arguments for inclusion for any of those four, but they come so late that I don't know if they can be included in the world-changing-ness of Disney, since they already had a theme park in Tokyo before any of these films came out. So inclusion of these four would be on merit alone, and if we're going to just consider the films on merit rather than influence, it's worth returning to... Q: Does the list really need to have a Disney animated film? A: If none of the films are actually among the top 100 films ever made, then I guess I'm inclined to say no. Thus, I've convinced myself to vote no on Snow White. Wonderful animation (except for the pretty faces), but too much hand-washing and moralizing for me to find it enjoyable.

Yeah I briefly saw it in a comic shop but didn't get it as I was looking for something else, so I had to spend about 30 minutes on Amazon trying to use my scrambled memory to find it, and boy the horrible looking crap I found trying different words along with house were astonishing.

Sending you all the virtual hugs. I'm pretty close with my cat, Puck, who has been with me through some extremely rough times over the years, so you have my deepest sympathy. As for what do I do, that's hard. What I don't do is listen to depressing music or even slower music. I find things that bring back fond memories (one thing for me is the soundtracks to the stage musicals Legally Blonde and Newsies). I let trusted friends know what is happening so if I start to withdraw too much, they will get on me not to. I listen to comedy podcasts, like this one (there's a few others I can recommend). Again, I'm so sorry for your loss.

Totally endorse this. HOUSE OF PENANCE is not only a great, disturbing horror story, but it is also weird as FUCK and an example of incredibly original visual design.

Yeah this ended up being a very "meh" horror film. I have taken the tour of the mansion as a kid and it truly is a sight to see the amount of work that has gone into making that place, and the tour guides give such a better story of what life was like during her building of the place. If you want a better story involving the Winchester house, read the comic House of Pennance by Peter J. Tomasi, as it follows not only the trauma she is suffering, but also some of the workers who were outlaws or deemed miscreants of the dying wild west. And you want to see a great horror film starring Jason Clarke, seriously go see Pet Sematary as it an amazing adaptation with so many more twists than what have been shown in the trailers and the performances of the four leads are fantastic all around.

Soon we will be one shared collective mind. Resistance is futile.

I think there was much ado about Wall-E and Dark Knight not getting nominated when such popular classics as the Reader and Curious Case of Benji Button were. My understanding is that’s what led to the Best Picture field getting expanded to 10 slots.

I think a legit argument could be made for South Park: BLU even though it was primarily known as a TV show, but I think an argument could be made that it is as groundbreaking as SW (a newer style of animation, catchy musical numbers, adult themes and language, poltical message, and lets be honest, it still holds up). The Iron Giant, as much as I love it (and I do--probably my favorite animated film ever) would be a struggle for it's inclusion

Right, most of those studios have made some good movies and all, but hard to claim anything as an all-time great (and of course Don Bluth was a Disney guy who left and made his own Disney-style films). I might make an argument for The Iron Giant or maybe the South Park movie, but it's not a super-strong argument. Brad Bird later became part of Pixar, and South Park is mostly known as a TV show. Animation is expensive and requires a large team, so it makes sense that a couple of major studios would siphon up all the talent for feature films.

I love Road to El Dorado!

I agree here with EvRobert. Animated, feature-length movies were Disney until at least the 90's. Snow White was the pioneer in that respect. Sure, others have clearly improved on the form, but it's a lot easier to do once Disney proved it could be done. I vote for it being a "great" movie, in that it was successful and still holds up relatively well (as opposed to say Pinocchio).

So, no DREAMWORKS ANIMATION? Are you suggesting that Road To El Dorado isn't worthy? What about Don Bluth? No A Troll In Central Park? Bakshi? Seriously though, Road to El Dorado is amazing and it's a shame. But I think Disney/Pixar has such a grip on the public conciseness that nearly ANY animated film is sometimes labeled as "Disney"

I am relieved to have not won this week. I don’t want to go to war with the Dutch. I was corrected in the original thread, Dutch. Also, I can’t beat maps. Was anyone else SHOCKED by how VRBO is pronounced? That was the big takeaway from me.

I mean I think that's the answer, right? It's a list of the 100 greatest, not "100 good, maybe not great" films. I voted that it shouldn't be on the list, and that's exactly why. It's better than good, I'll add, but I'm not sure it gets to great.

Cambert... I just read through this whole thread to see if anyone already made the point I wanted to bring up, and there it was, right at the end. I agree with the overall point that Snow White and Toy Story belong on the list because one of the criteria is groundbreaking achievement in film, for which they both definitely fit the bill. What I think is more interesting (by which I mean annoying) is that these are the only two animated films on the list, as though the only way an animated film could get on was through remarkable technical accomplishment. I think if there was a new list, we’d see a lot of progress in that regard... it does feel like the past 12 years or see have a lot more examples of excellent American animation. Wall-E arguably helped change the Oscars, we’ve got the resurgence of Disney, Laika Studios has entered the game, and let’s not forget the Spider-Verse (wary as I am of setting such a recent movie in the firmament, I LOVE it).

Nice research skills, Soup! I had a feeling it was him because I've always been the biggest Tim Heisenberg fan ever. I just remembered that I made a plea for his appearance here before. It took a few years, but they finally listened!