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With its measly box office performance Deadfall debuts at number 2 on the least profitable HDTGM movies list. Only The Room has done worse, and only those two films earned less than one percent of their budget back at the box office. Also, I'm very concerned that I too did not hear about this movie until this episode dropped. Are we perhaps in a Berenstain Bears Scenario, and living in an alternate universe of previously undiscovered 1990s Nicolas Cage movies?

I made you all a thread you little couch monsters

There’s actually a song called Deadfall based on this movie. It’s from the metal/hardcore punk band Snot on their album Get Some. I actually heard this song back in high school, but never knew what it was about until I saw clips of Nicolas Cage’s crazy performance on youtube and eventually watched the movie. The song essentially tells the plot of the entire movie. The vocals are kind of hard to understand, so I’ll post the lyrics below. https://youtu.be/DC5r92nBR14 Well, I killed my dad In a con gone bad Nearly drank myself to death But when he died he said Lou had the cake So I caught a bus headin' West I saw the numbers running through a small cafe And I knew I'd find my uncle Lou That's when Ed stepped up He said pick a card Shape the con before it shapes you Who sent ya'? Sam fuckin' Peckinpah Yeah who sent ya'? Who sent ya'? Who sent ya'? Sam fuckin' Peckinpah Yeah who sent ya’? Now I met my uncle for the very first time And he sent me on a con with Ed So we came callin' on his girl Diane A blonde girl dressed in red I guess pigeon dropping was the name of the game And I had to pay my dues Well fun time Family fun was the plan Shape the con before it shapes you Who sent ya'? Sam fuckin' Peckinpah Yeah who sent ya'? Who sent ya' baby girl? Sam fuckin' Peckinpah Yeah who sent ya’? Sam Peckinpah tried to choke Eddie out But he cut him from ear to ear Then he grabbed old Lou said "We fuck now" On his face a twisted jeer He took old Lou to the same cafe' Eddie couldn't have been much higher When he tied him up It was his intent To put his head in that deep fryer Well, Diane told me I tackled Ed As we did a little wiggle and dance When we were done Ed got a hot head Well viva la fuckin' France man! Someone tryin' to kill me man? (Who would try to kill you Eddie) The fucking hangers! Someone tryin' to kill me man? (Who would try to kill you Eddie) The fucking hangers! Guess they may be friends (All fuckin' summer long sugar) Who sent you? Sam fuckin' Peckinpah Yeah who sent ya'? Who sent ya' baby girl? Sam fuckin' Peckinpah Yeah who sent ya’? You shape the con or It'll shape you You shape the con You shape the con or It'll shape you You shape the con Hi-fucking-ya!

Maybe it's called Deadfall because he fell for his dad being dead? (Which was a kind of a trap...)

This was the first time I saw this and only had a vague sense of its plot (I did know the possibility that the child wasn't real, so the big reveal didn't feel so big because there felt like hints early on). I do not have any deep analysis of the film nor much time to say much, but one thing I will say, I really enjoyed the hell out of this movie.

Another great example of a “deadfall” is from Predator when Arnold is trapped in the woods. He kicks the trap and and all the large trees fall onto the predator—ultimately leading to its demise.

The boys are making fun of "All joking a salad" and "Hey Nong Man" in Joe Wengert Again and they say their t-shirt will be "We the Peep-hole" … did anyone make that shirt? With the rise in government spying I can see this one really taking off.

I've only seen a handful a few years ago on my last visit with my paternal grandma. I clearly remember the episode we found was a two parter with Carol Burnett where they got locked in a bank safe and I remember I was shocked by his legs. Truly the man has the gams of a supermodel in her prime. Heidi Klum and her $2 million legs clearly learned everything from watching Magnum PI. How a pair of legs in Germany were watching tv and learning to be perfect I don't know but that's my theory.

This is so sad.

In the scene where Diane holds Eddie (Cage) at gunpoint in the hotel, you can see over the room’s set walls! (Runtime 54:13) I was in the audience for the live show, raising my hand to bring this up, but Paul gave me a nod and walked right past me

Now that we know what an actual deadfall is, have we gotten any closer to identifying what it means in the context of the movie? It does sound like the name of a con pulled from Tim Robinson's box of gangster movie props, but I'm pretty sure both Jameses Coburn call the con they pull with Biehn something else. I guess it could be a reference to the meta-con, since Biehn gets trapped in it after he thinks his father is dead, and is pulled in further by falling in love with the plant. The utter stupidity of that as an explanation actually makes me think I might be on the right track here.

It's kind of a shame that boxofficemojo.com doesn't keep track of The Room still. There are midnight shows selling out around the country every week. If we're going to keep track of Avatar or End Game re-releases, it seems fair that the presumably millions The Room has technically made should be counted as well.

To chime in - as a single, child-free woman of a certain age, I can tell you the pressure to get married, to have kids, and to refrain from having kids outside of marriage, is alive and well. And infertility (while not necessarily reflecting poorly on the woman) still comes with the feeling that to be a woman is to be a mother, and by not being a mother, you are not a fully realized woman.

Re-listening to the Reality Show Show, it friggin slaps. Did they ever have merch for that show?

Tanks but no tanks tank tops

Love this episode

One of my favorites

I guess I just didn't get that Woolf was trying to be particularly "forward-thinking" so much it was an intimate character study. You said in your original post that the movie showed the "negative effect" of what not being able to have a baby can have on a woman and that this contributed to it feeling "outdated." Maybe I'm misunderstanding yours and Amy's point, but I just don't feel like the idea of Martha wanting to have a baby, and her subsequent frustration at their inability to conceive, to be inherently "outdated." No one in the film (surprisingly) ever tells her, "You are less of a woman because you haven't had a child." She's disappointed because she's being denied something that SHE wants by factors beyond her control. Societal pressure really doesn't come into play at all - at least not overtly. And I assume, much like the homosexual thing, had Albee or Nichols really wanted that to be part of the story they were telling, they could have easily written it into the plot. Ultimately, I interpreted Woolf to be a story about the damage unfulfilled dreams - particularly ones that never come to pass due to circumstances beyond your control - can wreak upon an individual, and by extension, their relationships. In this case, Albee choose for that dream to be represented as a baby. And while I suppose it could have been represented by just about anything, I don't feel like it necessarily had to be something else either. Unless of course the complaint is: "She's a woman so of course the writer made the manifestation of all her hopes and desires a baby." But as long as Martha retains her agency, I really don't see a problem with that.

A classic song of the ol' West.... Partner

Funky fresh

This is an epic movie. However, the way it portrays the black people is really troubling. I can only recount three black characters: Mammy, Big Sam, and Prissy. Amy and Paul talk about Prissy being maybe mentally handicapped. This is a character written by white people for white people. It's really disturbing. The North and the carpetbaggers are the bad guys. The old South are the good guys. Slavery is addressed obliquely, and it suggests that it wasn't such a bad thing. WTF? Also:

I think if you have listened to live episodes then you pretty much know what happens. There is some video stuff first and then Tall Paul comes out to do some prep and starts the show. When it ends, they pose for pictures and such? It’s a live show with improvisers. Listen and yes and.

You'll likely be hoarse from chanting "ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOKS!" and "JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNE!"