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The end of the movie, as I recall, is a fever dream of multiple suicides. I will say that as a person who has struggled with mental illness and suicidal thoughts over the years, it was not triggering in the least FOR ME. Because it is just so stupid and poorly done.

*a single tear rolls down Matthew Perry's cheek*

If we're limiting it purely to The Odd Couple, Klugman/Randall over Matthau/Lemmon.

I just let out a shocked strangled "Paul!!!" To rival any June has ever uttered at hearing that Paul said he cried at The Hottie and the Nottie. I don't know whose more concerned my cat at my distress over whatever is going on with Paul or me worrying about Paul.

Also in my humble opinion this episode was nice, funny, and smart, but the conflict between the boys made it too scary for me. Hearing Sean and Hayes pretend to argue a little bit is like having someone tell you a mouse might have died in the room you're in. Just the idea that there could be a mouse skellington in the room and you don't even know it is terrifying. Good episode, but faint of heart listeners beware. This episode may be too scary. P.S. Tom is not an unfunny asshole. I think he's actually a pretty nice guy.

Hello Friendos! I made an Earwolf account now! It only took me about 6 years to get around to it but I finally made it! Am I literally too late? NoHorseMan said he was ready to declare the forums dead... Is that's true?

TOM SCHARPLING returns for another attempt to become the third host with guest WILL HINES.

Ok, thank you! That’s very helpful to know.

I think it's an overdose not a suicide and there's a murder staged as suicide that is very clearly a murder

Also, Phantasm and ALL of its sequels are in a Joe Bob Briggs marathon that’s streaming on Shudder.

It’s actually streaming on the Joe Bob Briggs Drive-In series on Shudder, which is a great series. He also did a deep dive into Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night II and the entire Phantasm series. Even if the movie he selects is not your cup of tea, Joe Bob Briggs is awesome.

The mothman YMCA song I know is "Mothman! There's no need to be down I said Mothman! Eat a kid off the ground! " Which while shorter paints a very vivid picture in a few words.

I saw it when I spent the day hanging out with a girl I was seeing and her roommate and her boyfriend. They streamed it for us and I'm pretty sure they neither paid for it or used pornhub to get it. I know she said she was moving to Japan soon but I can text her tomorrow and ask if she can ask them. I'll keep you guys posted! It's truly a WILD movie and you must see it.

I watched "The Fate of the Furious" on TV a couple of days ago. And I noticed something a little interesting. When the football team The Rock was coaching performed the Siva Tau before the game, The Rock stuck his tongue out. Now, before the fight in Hobbs & Shaw, the Rock leads another Siva Tau, this time, there's no tongue (I realise that sounds weird now I've just read that back). Here's where it's interesting. There have been many who believe that in ancient polynesian culture, sticking the tongue out after performing a war dance, such as a Haka, or a Siva Tau, signals an intent to cannibalise their enemy. However, that shows a level of respect. As the belief was that by eating the enemy after defeating them in battle, they will consume their "Mana", their fighting spirit, their strength, and what made them a warrior, thus making the victor stronger. So, if you go by that line of thinking, The Rock was showing more respect to a girls football team, than he was Idris Elba and his army. Which adds a subtle layer to the themes of heart, and humanity that the movie had. Idris, and his army, were cybernetically enhanced, they had no warrior spirit, and were not worth consuming.

I mean it's pretty clear she runs the prison and is just biding her time in there. I *almost* feel like she went to prison and stayed in as an elaborate plot to get the Shaw siblings ( That matter because fuck Owen he's apparently the Shaw family Gob) back together again. The family that breaks mom out of prison is the family that stays together! in conclusion this entire family could give a fuck about Owen Shaw.

Have we talked about how there's going to be an all female Fast and Furious apparently?!??!?!??? https://www.themarysue.com/all-female-fast-and-furious/

We see the virus capsules have entered her bloodstream, so they would have quickly circulated around her entire body, not remained in her hand. This is as good a place as any to break down just how ridiculous the virus-extraction machine is in terms of a fake piece of biotechnology. Nicole's Theranos joke was one of the best lines of the episode, but at least Holmes' bullshit was in the general vicinity of scientific plausibility. This machine, however, is so straight-up magical that Cliff Curtis fixing it with a 3D printer is one of the more realistic aspects of the movie. Putting aside how the virus is actually designed to work, let's focus on how it's delivered and that it's designed to be extracted if necessary. The virus appears to be encapsulated in engineered particles that are roughly the size of red blood cells. These particles are designed to naturally degrade in 72 hours, releasing the virus into the bloodstream. Let's also assume that these particles have been engineered to flawlessly hide from the immune system for that long, and aren't getting caught in any of the body's physical filtration systems, like the kidneys or spleen. All of this is impossible to do with the level of precision necessary to prevent the carrier from being pretty much immediately infected, but the real challenge is getting every last one of those particles out of the carrier's body before your Domino's order is delivered. The zoom-in shots we see of the particles being sucked up implies that a sharp metal tube knows the difference between them and the surrounding blood cells, but since that's the equivalent of "a wizard did it," let's walk through what it would need to do if it was working like a super-fast dialysis machine. Once Hattie's blood is inside the machine, it needs to be able to identify and capture the Eteon particles while leaving the red blood cells (and the various other healthy blood components) alone. The options are basically either a physical filter, which would be need to be tuned to the particles' exact weight, diameter, etc., or a chemical sensor, like antibodies, custom DNA strands or complex molecules that bind to biomarkers found only on the particles' exteriors. These are more-or-less in line with the kind of multi-purpose blood diagnostics machines Elizabeth Holmes was trying to build with Theranos. The problem she ran into is that all of these technologies are so delicate — dealing with physical properties that are right on the edge of single-molecule detection — that they can't be reliably used to tell whether you have high cholesterol, much less prevent you from contracting Genocitus-Shmenocitus. And that's assuming you know exactly what physical properties you're looking for on these 5-micron-wide particles. So unless Cliff has a scanning electron microscope in the back of his remote Samoan chop-shop, plus a fully equipped wet-lab for making new reagents, plus a forced-air-sterilized clean room for doing the nanoscale fabrication necessary for actually getting the particles back into the vial, everyone is shit out of luck. All of this leads me to believe the only thing that could be broken on the machine is the screen and the injection microfluidics — two things Cliff would absolutely be able to fix due to their similarity to the nitrous systems on his cars.

Okay, two things: 1. Are we not going to talk about Helen Mirren's full hair, makeup, and jewelry? Is she getting the Al Capone treatment in there? 2. We've established that Hattie injected the virus in capsules into her hand. The capsules will dissolve after the longest 72 hours ever and then.. end of humanity. When they plan what to do if they can't extract the virus in time, why does she have to die and burn her body? Why not just amputate her hand?! Is that a fate worse than death? Why is this not an option?

Will just torched Scharpling

This has corker written all over it

Couldn't care less about popular opinion. Don't care about critical opinion most of the time either, because so many so-called critics are just entertainment reporters with a press pass. Real criticism in any art form is not about giving a grade or score, it's about examining work in the context of its time and whatever other lens the critic chooses to use. I do use Pauline Kael's four-star system for rating movies as a way of very generally contextualizing a film - four stars is a classic, zero is a worthless forgettable film, two is average. I think it's a useful system because she was so consistent and thoughtful in her reviews, and that style was adopted by so many other critics who came after, most notably Roger Ebert. Of course Ebert also (to his chagrin) popularized the much less useful thumbs up/down system. I find Rotten Tomatoes-style "ratings" to be particularly offensive, as they really just distill the current atmosphere of making films a popularity contest. People behave as if they are shareholders in a movie studio because studio marketing understands that everyone wants to be on the "winning side". People who are nowhere near working in the film industry track box office results. Actual news has been replaced with so much entertainment "news". It's madness. I think that's one reason why I enjoy stuff like HDTGM and MST3K and on the flip side, Turner Classic Movies - they focus on the love of movies, many of which are excluded from the marketing machine because the stars weren't famous enough, the budget wasn't big enough, whatever.

[Apologies for the formatting! I'm not sure how to do indentation on this thing.] INT. HDTGM STUDIO - UNSPECIFIED TIME PAUL, alias TALL JOHN SCHEER, sits at a microphone looking at familiar ad copy on the screen of his laptop. A couple of producers [Nate? Avril? Cody? Who’s in studio during the ad recordings?] monitor his performance and the audio quality with varying levels of attention. PAUL People! Here’s the deal. I. love. Squarespace. Squarespace— PAUL sighs audibly. PAUL (cont’d) How many times do I have to tell you—you have to have your own website. And there’s no better way to make your own website than by using Squarespace. [How much detail do we want to include here about 24/7 support, ecommerce, and the sites Paul’s made using Squarespace?] The ROBOT CHORUS chimes in to mark a transition. ROBOT CHORUS Howdidthisgetmade. INT. LARGO AT THE CORONET - NIGHT A CROWD of amiable, slightly intoxicated nerds sits in silence punctuated by a smattering of chuckles, giggles, and a single dry couch. The CROWD knows what it’s in store for, and is pleased. On stage, PAUL, wearing light blue jeans and a tucked-in blue check shirt, with the kind of close-cropped hairstyle worn by Jason Statham in CELLULAR, stands in front of three bulky-looking chairs, a small table with PAUL’S laptop, and a projector screen displaying the laptop’s desktop: an image of John Turturo in a leather jacket flanked by two mannequins dressed in old air force uniforms. PAUL clicks on the folder titled “TRANSFORMERS” and opens the file “remixtheme.mp4.” Still vibrant from a well-received warm-up, PAUL delivers the opening monologue he’s prepared for this event. PAUL It’s like 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY if 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY was incomprehensible garbage. That’s right, we saw TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN, and you know what that means! PAUL clicks the play button and saunters offstage. MUSIC CUE: “HDTGM Theme Song - Remix.” A wave of cheers washes over the final few words of the theme song, as PAUL returns from his brief trip offstage. PAUL Hello! people of earth! And hello! people of Largo! The CROWD acknowledges itself with another wave of cheers and applause at the mention of the LARGO theater. PAUL Welcome to “How Did This Get Made?” I’m your host, Tall John Scheer. PAUL pauses for laughter, which the CROWD happily supplies. PAUL This movie... Anxious laughter. PAUL (cont’d) People, I did not want to watch this movie. I tried not to watch this movie. I resisted watching this movie. But one thing is for sure: If I was going to sit through all ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MINUTES of this movie, I was not going to do so without my cohosts. Please welcome my first co-host: Jason Mantzoukas! JASON, alias ZOUKS, wearing dark jeans and a white button-up t-shirt, his hair and beard exploding outward in every direction, shifts onstage and drags his feet toward his chair, visibly sighing and shaking his head as he lifts up his microphone and sits. The initial applause and cheering of the CROWD is quickly overpowered by a roaring welcome. CROWD Zouks! JASON What’s up, jerks! The CROWD, already in the midst of applause, chants of “Zouks,” and loud cheers, lets out a collective whoop. PAUL Jason— JASON Paul? PAUL TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN. JASON Oh boy. PAUL cackles as nervous laughter settles over the CROWD. JASON I'm gonna say it: I don’t think we should be negotiating with terrorists. PAUL Michael Bay has been taunting and threatening us literally for years, and now we’ve finally given in. JASON I am exhausted from this movie! The only good thing I can say about this movie is that I didn’t have to spend any money on it because you already own eight thousand TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN DVDs. PAUL It’s true. JASON My little baby booty boy?! The CROWD erupts. PAUL (laughing) We’re gonna get into all of it. But first, let me introduce my second-cohost. Please welcome: June Diane Raphael! JUNE, wearing blue jean capris and a black-and-white striped top, steps onstage to a boisterous response from the CROWD. First, what sounds like a chorus composed predominantly of the women in the audience lets out a loud, delighted wave of cheering; this is quickly followed by a slightly lower-pitched rumble of hollers and applause; finally, both are drowned out by a forceful roar. CROWD June! JUNE grabs her microphone and sits down, making quick eye contact with JASON, whose smile and laughter elicits the same in JUNE. PAUL Welcome, June, how are you? JUNE I’m fine, Paul, how are you? PAUL I’m great, thanks for asking. Giddy, knowing giggles filter through much of the CROWD. PAUL First thoughts about TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN? JUNE sighs loudly and sorrowfully. JASON lets out a gleeful monosyllabic laugh. JUNE What— JASON (under his breath) Here we go. JUNE (cont’d) —is this? I suppose, technically, this is a motion picture?

Also I love at how much they've expanded the roles of Lance Reddick and Ian McShane over the last two films, especially Reddick who most people don't realize can be really funny. I have to assume that he just submitted this video as his audition tape and that was all they needed.

I will only accept this as a candidate if we start the podcast by announcing it as The Greatest Movie of all Time. Seriously though, how could you have left out Chris Tucker as bisexual radio host Ruby Rod? Because wow. And the fact that Jean Paul Gaultier was the costume designer? This movie is crazy in the best possible way.

If they make an email address for questions to close out the Pro Version and don't use the forums... we must declare the forums dead.