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right about now, i'm gonna drop some Hanukkah science

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bonus content-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t! So I really wanted to do something Christmas related because I love Christmas music. I spend a good two weeks in November every year just combing throw all my Christmas music to make a new playlist every year. So I thought while I'm picking a movie why not pick some Christmas music for you guys as well. Everyday this week I'll add a new song to this thread to many inspire you or add something new an interesting to your playlist. See my problem is there is tons of Christmas music out there but everybody seems to stick to the same versions of the same songs. There are lots of options. Also, nothing more would delight me than a whole thread of Christmas music. For starters, want some Spanish flair to your Holidays but tired of Feliz Navidad?

I honestly had a hard time listening to this episode, which I obviously knew I would, and I am thankful for the trigger warning by Paul and Amy with the option to take a pass this week and sit tight for the next episode. I myself chose to listen knowing it would be hard, and it was hard. Personally, I do not want to get into Woody's life because I myself experienced sexual assault as a child and considering how the last conversation I had on the Earwolf forums about men in Hollywood with less than ideal reputations went... I think I'll take a pass. But on the movie itself, I saw this in high school because I also wanted to begin my career in the study of film history, and it never really stuck with me. I had friends that absolutely died over Woody's movies, and I wanted so bad to be as cool and watch as many of them as I could, but while I liked this film... I did not love it. I think the only one of his movies I did love was Midnight in Paris and I wonder if it's because I just don't enjoy Woody Allen's acting style. I chose not to rewatch it and I don't regret that, but the only thing about the entire movie that even sticks out to me is when Alvy criticizes Annie for smoking weed before sex. I think about that a lot because I've done that and let me tell y'all, it's great. 10/10 would recommend. Other than that I have nothing but "meh" feelings about this movie.

A Christmas classic:

Well first off no Thanksgiving planned musical, I apologize. I honestly thought it was last week for you guys. At first I was going to get us in the holiday spirit by kicking thing off with a Christmas musical. However, there aren't that many and I didn't want to steal anything away from somebody that might want to do one next month. So I thought about this for awhile. There are a few musicals I think are a bit out there that I wanted to cover. I found one, not going to say which yet, that I really wanted to do but I don't think it is streaming anywhere. I tried using a few sites but was getting conflicting results as to what was streaming and what wasn't. Finally, I thought why throw caution into the wind with a film I don't think any of us have seen and pick something with two leads that everybody loves that might warm us up if where you're from is starting to feel a little cool. I present to you... I don't think it is free anywhere (sorry) but it is a cheap Amazon rental from what I can tell.

The Boys welcome IFY NWADIWE and MATT APODACA to teach them how to be the most famous gamers.

I am looking forward to this. I've never seen it. It has Phil Silvers and Marjorie Mann in it. How can it miss?

(Not sure my previous attempt posted.) Obligatory

Yeah, this is my second for today...

Can we all participate?

That will be an interesting conversation, and I'll be very excited for the rest of us to compare our own Best of the Decade.

As soon as I saw Phil Silvers my mind was made.

After this week, the next three weeks will be a ‘best of the decade’ set

Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks, mom!

So got to totally agree with Paul on this movie you got to love this movie, my omission is about the games and how to double dragon has somewhat returned. Unlike Mario, Street Figther and Mortal Kombat were they had lacklustre movies in the 90s, there have still been video games coming out based on those properties, compare this to Double Dragon which last will received game was 2012 Double Dragon neon with the last double dragon with the last game being 8bit Double Dragon IV coming out in 2017 developed by Arc System Works who owns the property. But some Double Dragon characters have returned this year in the game River City Girls, while games are about the girlfriends of the protagonists from the river city ransom games saving their boyfriends Billy and Jimmy lee appear in the game as NPC who can teach you move, as well as ABOBO who is a boss with the game going into his backstory of his parents not love him enough as a baby.

rip in peace engineer ryan xoxo

YES! I would love for everyone to join in. Bring on the Christmas tunes y'all!!!

To pivot it back to the movie, I don't think Paul and Amy were that hard on Allen, but agree that wasn't the point of the podcast. Still, they were maybe WAY too amazed by the movie, like even expressing wonder that anyone could dislike it. Well, guess what? I can recognize the innovation in the scripting (but apparently that was found via editing so...?) and the central relationship (which I hesitate to call love, but that's why it's unique), but I don't particularly enjoy sitting through the film. It's just too misanthropic in its humor, which I find to be dated and not unenjoyable. Humor is subjective though, I guess. And I realize that misanthropy is the point of the character, Alvy maybe is a bit of an anti-hero. To me, it's almost similar to Taxi Driver, where people are connecting to the main character, but I'm like "oh no, you should not be." (And I actually like Taxi Driver a lot, a movie can work with out that.) But as Sycasey noted above, Woody Allen has a huge lack of self-awareness as a person... so I'm not super convinced he has it as a writer either, so I find Alvy confusing as presented. The ending does save it somewhat, though, I'll add. There is some complicated emotion and feelings presented here which it does maybe get right. I'm rambling I think, I don't know. It is a movie to think about, that's for sure.

I'm quite a bit surprised that the first reaction to how Paul and Amy treated the controversial aspects of Woody Allen was that they went too hard on him. I personally think they handled the situation well, but if anything, they mostly let him off. Granted, I'm someone who also struggles to reconcile with how much I love so much of Woody Allen's work, even up to and including the relatively recent Midnight in Paris. And I wasn't exactly following Woody Allen in 1992 (my cinematic highlight of the year was seeing Aladdin in a theater), so I didn't know about the Dylan accusations until they resurfaced in 2014. This week's rewatch of Annie Hall was the first time I've tried watching one of his films since then. But first, about the Soon-Yi bits: I agree with everything said here, and I just want to mention Ronan in relation to the Soon-Yi thing. Because sure, Soon-Yi was not Woody Allen's adopted daughter, and sure, he wasn't even married to the woman who did adopt her. But here's another fact (as Ronan himself has pointed out): Ronan Farrow's father married Ronan's sister. I don't get why anyone wants to die on the hill of defending that as anything but abnormal behavior. As far as the Dylan accusations, I don't have much to say, except: First, thanks to sycasey for sharing these links. The problem with these cases is usually a lack of verifiable facts. But this is something that stuck out to me. From Ronan Farrow's Hollywood Reporter op-ed: "My mother and the prosecutor decided not to subject my sister to more years of mayhem. In a rare step, the prosecutor announced publicly that he had "probable cause" to prosecute Allen, and attributed the decision not to do so to "the fragility of the child victim."" And from Robert Weide's rebuttal: "The fact is that these lengthy investigations — which were ordered by the prosecution, by the way — concluded that the abuse did not take place. Consequently, no charges were ever brought against Allen. That’s the reason it went away for all those years. A legal determination had been made, after which everyone went about their business." It seems to me that one of those statements has to be verifiably false, in that the prosecution either had probable cause to go ahead with the case or they didn't. Weide bends the facts a bit, in that while the Yale/New Haven clinic investigation gave an opinion that the abuse did not take place, the other investigation he cites didn't actually give a conclusion besides a lack of evidence. But ultimately, if "facts" as basic as this can't be verified or disputed, the truth about what actually happened will never be revealed and uncontended. But like AlmostAGhost said, Allen has ultimately dug his own grave in regards to public perception by repeatedly dating (or trying to date) teenagers. And then he didn't help himself a couple years ago during the Weinstein ouster when he used the term "witch hunt" in regards to workplace sexual harassment. The sum of it all leaves me where Amy seemed to be in this episode: despite how I feel about his earlier films, I will probably never watch another of his new films, and I sort of wish he'd just stop, or fade away.

Speaking of being accurate and knowing everything out there -- let's not just mention Moses Farrow while ignoring the work of Ronan Farrow, who is on Dylan's side. Moses may defend Woody, but if I recall, the rest of the family disagrees and cut Moses out. And whether or not Mia/Woody were married, or Soon Yi was his adopted daughter or someone else's, it's not right. I don't believe he married his own daughter, but whatever he did, it's wrong. I agree it's maybe more borderline on the acceptability scale than is often portrayed or discussed; but still... why defend it? I mean, how many movies has Woody Allen made about him being hot for a girl far too young? Here is this story. Anyway, yea I don't know if this is the forum for this. Or maybe it is. Not trying to argue, just want to say that the anti-Woody facts aren't that insane to grasp on to.