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They really make a meal of that poem, huh? I would really love to get my hands on NPH’s syllabus. Apparently his lesson plan was: assign a single poem (of the student’s choosing), provide zero instruction or guided discussion, leave your students to perpetually re-read the same poem over the course of - what appears to be - months so they can make goo-goo eyes at each other. There will be no other classes.

After bringing the world "The Hurricane Heist", British movie channel Sky Cinema brings us their latest movie, FINAL SCORE! Starring Dave Bautista as a retired special forces fighter, he visits his deceased friend's family in London, with a couple of tickets to take his daughter to watch West Ham in a crucial European match, but a much more deadly game is happening off the pitch. Guys, this movie is fucking nuts. Absolutely perfect for HDTGM, we saw how crazy the Hurricane Heist was, this is on that level. You have to see it.

I think Kyle doesn't help his father. Not out of spite or revenge, but because, as you said, I think his father is unlikely to come to the same self-realization if he's having his hand held. I think the whole point of the curse is to look within yourself, face your faults, and find your own way to fix them. I suppose he could help set up situations in which self-realization or actualization can occur - the same way Kyle had a couple people who helped him out with the girl (whose name I can never remember, nor care to). I don't think anyone can truly achieve self-actualization or make any real, lasting change while having their hand held or receiving tons of assistance. That defeats the purpose, and is maybe why I never believed Kyle actually changed.

If he truly learned then yes he helps his dad, as it emphasizes the son's growth while also showing the dad what kind of a prick he truly is. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the first time the dad sees himself in a mirror after being changed, and knowing what his son had to go through, just decides to put a gun in his mouth or jump out a window to save himself the torment he thinks he will suffer.

Here’s a bit of an ethical dilemma I would like to throw out to the group. At the end of the movie it is heavily implied that Kyle’s father is going to be cursed by Kendra as punishment for his own vanity and shallow behavior. My question is: does Kyle help him through the curse? And, if so, should he? Kyle was exiled and abandoned by his father, so it seems a little bit unfair that Kyle’s father might receive the kind of unconditional love and support he himself was denied. Besides, it was at least partly due to the isolation imposed on him that helped him achieve self-actualization. Can Kyle’s father even realize that same level of personal growth and self-reflection if his son is there holding his hand through his own trial? That being said, if Kyle ignores the curse placed on his father and leaves him to suffer as he did - even if his father “deserves it” - has he actually learned anything? If the point of the curse is to teach Kyle to be less vain and selfless - and not just score himself a girlfriend - shouldn’t he forgive his father and be there for him? I don’t know. To me, it seems fucked up that his father might not have to suffer to the same degree as his son when it’s clear that it’s primarily his fault that Kyle was the way he was in the first place.

I completely agree with you, and this is another thing that handled better in the novel. In the book, Kyle caught Lindy’s dad breaking into the mansion and the greenhouse and, like the original versions of the story, makes him pay back him back by giving up his daughter. But more importantly, Kyle actually cares about Lindy at this point because he’s been watching her through a magic mirror Kendra gave him. So he has already learned about what she likes and how she spends her time. (Again we all know kidnapping, stalking, and voyuerism is problematic.) When it comes to Will and the housekeeper (her name is Magda in the book) they’re okay with it because at this point there’s already been significant change to how he was before. I think Lindy came to stay with him one year into a two year curse, so that’s a whole year he’s had to become a better person. The housekeeper is fine with it because we find out later she’s Kendra in disguise, trying to guide Kyle in the right direction. And Will is aware of the curse, and while he probably doesn’t believe it, he can clearly tell how depressed and hopeless Kyle has gotten and how excited the prospect of Lindy coming has made him. So really the only adult who would have an issue with it most likely went along with it to help Kyle out, as he was already grown as a person. And like they would’ve heard Kyle mention Lindy by now. They knew he never had nefarious motvies.

100% All this guy ever did was for himself and to get his dashing good looks (was he that attractive?) back. None of his gifts or his wooing was about making her happy. Even with all Kyle's stalking he didn't take the time to get to know her and only talked about himself and how ugly he must seem to everyone. Even after she said "I love you" to him, I felt just this creepy sense that he only tricked her into it and I never got the feeling he had any genuine, non-stalkery-y feelings for this girl. She was a conquest, a goal. I did not like the dynamics of the stalking, the kidnapping, the lying, and this is supposed to be romance? Pass.

It's insane to me that Nola and Will's complicity is just given a pass. It's one thing to open up their home as a sanctuary to a person in need, but they know full well that Kyle has ulterior motives. Not only that, they don't even really believe in the whole curse thing in the first place. So, from their perspective, they are just holding this teenage girl against her will at the whim of their spoiled boss' son until she expresses her love for him. That's deranged. Shouldn't there at least be a discussion of, "Yes, she's in danger, but maybe the cops are better equipped to offer her protection?" They don't even have a stake in it! It's not like in the cartoon where they are under the curse too. Heck, they don't even know that they might get anything out of it. They just know that this troubled girl has been dropped off on their doorstep - who explicitly tells them that she doesn't want to be there - and they are just like, "Yeah, we know you're being held against your will, and you're miserable, but have you checked out Hunter's abs recently?"

This is a correct opinion. "Masterpice" is a tough standard, but the last Spielberg movie that I thought was "great" was Catch Me If You Can, and that's got daddy issues all over it.

Oh, and Madonna performing the theme song and appearing in a cameo! Also, The Clash's "London Calling" morphing into an Imperial March-esque theme telegraphing who the villain is before we get to meet him.

Hot take: Hook is Spielberg's Goonies. I loved that movie as a kid, but I think it's pretty objectively bad. Hook also continued Spielberg's "daddy issues" theme, though it might be the nadir of those films. Speaking of Spielberg's "daddy issues", I do wonder though if Spielberg's reconciliation with his father in the mid-90s had an effect on the quality of his films. I'm of the mind that Jurassic Park and Schindler's List were his last true masterpieces, though I anticipate that will be debated on the Saving Private Ryan episode when they get to it.

It was a Christmas promotion that McDonald's ran for like a decade where they sold like some of the biggest hits for the year or year prior. You basically got a VHS, which were still pretty pricey at the time, for under ten bucks, with the purchase of a value meal. It's how I got copies of The Addams Family, Home Alone, and a few others that I can't remember off the top of my head. I was recently trying to explain this to a younger friend of mine and he just looked at me like that was the most insane promotion he had ever heard of.

tayshaun, how DARE you block reggie miller's game sealing layup in game 2 of the 2004 eastern conference finals! i still have nightmares about that play. couple that with paul george breaking his leg on a chasedown block, and you've got some serious PTSD when it comes to giving extra effort on the defensive end for pacer fans! to top it all off, in the recent summer movie uncle drew, reggie miller's character "lights" twists his ankle after a chasedown block! talk about insult to injury for pacer fans!

Yea that was a fucking awesome promotion. I can't remember the details, but thats how we got all three Indiana Jones movies on VHS.

The boys really aughta give us a tutorial for how to go to the bathroom. It can be tough . I never know when I'm sposed to flush the damn thing.

In retrospect I guess Sean and Hayes were always on a collision course with Joe Rogan, but thank God it happened like it did in this Pro Version

Sorry guys, I'm not posting this week. I've been getting too many likes lately, and it's taking a toll on the Forum Vets... Joe McGurl called me from his bathroom last night, sobbing and begging me not to do something--I couldn't make out what he was saying, bc it sounded like he was having trouble going to the bathroom

I thought maybe something awesome had happened to the app and everything would be different, but uhh I think this is all we get.

eat your heart out, sharpling.

Spending this day reflecting on the sacrifices Deadpool made to become the 3rd Boy of HH

1st rule of book club, tell all your friends

Carl Tart is a(n inter)national treasure. I was convulsing with laughter for the opening. Part of it was just because the singing was so funny - but also, laughing at the fact that he was going to have to sustain it for the duration of the episode. Scott's blatant setups later on were gold. Especially when Carl didn't seem to get them quite so immediately.

If only you included how to squeeze in a detour to My Hero on Jerusalem Ave.

I liked the henchman with the diamonds in his face as that was a very Bond-esque villain, though the guy who went from Korean (?) to a white dude complete with different voice was next level nuts, sort of like when Connery was in yellow face for You Only Live Twice. Also, his reason for being evil wasn't as bad as Tomorrow Never Dies' villain who wanted to control the news using a remote control drill-missle, but it was still pretty bad. And did anyone think that the bad guy was just the kid from The Wizard all grown up?