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I've got about 45 mins left on The Last Five Years, but I'm predicting an extremely happy ending. I'm not wrong, right?

ok, I'm watching the movie this very moment and planning to listen to the show on my way to work but I hope to GOD someone mentions Emma Roberts dipping her finger in the sauce, LICKING that finger and then doing it again. I screamed at the tv "DONT DO THAT!" She's a trained chef and has no problem with CONTAMINATION?!?!!?! That is the only thing to wake me up from this bland ass movie.

Depends on whether you're pulling for Jamie or Cathy. Also, 45 minutes left is halfway through. It's a short movie.

After last week's emotion-fest I bet he'll pick something upbeat like Sweeney Todd to lighten the mood.

Thanks so much to the hosts for emphasizing that McMurphy is his own villain. I got through an AP English course in which we also watched Cool Hand Luke and I don’t recall anyone noticing that these anti-heroes are just jerks. As a female (specifically in education) who is responsible for normal people, including young and male people, I can no longer enjoy the many, many works of art centered on demonizing women in authority without recognizing that I’m about to spend another work shift caring for people who think I’m EXACTLY that evil woman every time I tell them not to talk while I’m talking, draw on their desks or pull their dicks out. There was something in the discussion about the movie being much more sympathetic to the Nurse’s POV than the book. Now I when I see any antihero taking down a mean lady baddy, I can’t help imagining this director/writer/producer getting caught doodling or something he felt was a sign of unrecognised genius and then vowing revenge. I also can’t help thinking about (mostly) males in film abusing others, but neither can anyone else. Still love movies and some men, in spite of the poisoning of the memories. ***Glass.(using the mean lady abusing sick antiheroes connection) If you watch Glass as a nod to OFOtCN or an adaptation of “The Three Christs of Ypsilanti,” does that make it more fun? *can you gauge misogyny by opinions on the woman being killed in Jurassic World? It ranges from “B had it coming for not doing her job” to “That wasn’t her job, she didn’t deserve to die and we definitely didn’t need to see down her shirt as she was slowly tortured on two levels of the almost-dinosaur food-chain."

Huh. Little Italy. Momma Mia! You know you're in trouble when the Christmas Prince is a better movie. Yes, there are SOME shots in this movie of the actual Little Italy here in Toronto like when Hayden and Emma are biking around Clinton street. And the Monarch Tavern is prominently featured, which is weird because that's not Italian, yet they didn't use Bitondos or The Diplimatico which are the most well known Italian restaurants in the area. Cakebud Tranch got it right... Some of the establishing shots at the beginning, again, where Leo is riding his bike around, and where the BEST PIZZA CONTEST is held, are from the Distillery District here in Toronto, which is literally on the other side of city. Like SO FAR from Little Italy itself. Toronto's Little Italy is frankly unremarkable -- and I can say that because I lived in that neighbourhood for 6 years. I WISH the Little Italy here was as good as in the movie. It's like shooting a scene in the Upper East Side of New York and calling it Little Italy. For people that live here that's annoying. And the whole airport security line stopped and watched the entire proclamation of love scene. Annoying. Side story: my sister-in-law and 3 year old niece were wandering around Little Italy (where they now live in my old apartment) and came across the set for Vince's pizza shop. They got super excited about there being a new pizza shop in the area. They even sat down at one of the outdoor tables waiting to get served, until they realized after a few minutes that the "staff" was just hanging out looking a little despondent and bored. That's when it dawned on her that it was a movie set. And no one told them to move! She happened to be at my house when I was watching the movie for this podcast and she lost her mind when she saw the external shot of the restaurant. She made me pause the movie to tell me the story! Also that pizza they eat straight out of the pizza oven on their date would be too hot to casually hold and eat right away. But they just manga right into it! Thanks for a fun listen P,J and J!

I’m no immigration lawyer, but after visiting https://visas-immigration.service.gov.uk I am shockingly finding some problems with the setup to this movie. Jane Seymour tells Emma Roberts that she has to go back to Canada to get her visa changed from a student visa to a work visa. From what I could tell, it seems like this is a process that can actually be done online. But even if she did need to go back to get some personal documents, the one thing that I did see as a requirement to get a work visa is that you have to have a clear job offer. But Emma doesn’t have that yet. All she’s been told is that is in the running with the other guy and Jane Seymour will decide based on the menus they create. And given the WordPerfect menu that we see Emma creating, I’m guessing she wouldn’t have been chosen, which means this whole effort would be for nothing.

So, I tried to count and there’s conservatively 20 lamps on the rooftop. There’s a Walmart near there, so I’m assuming that’s his lamp dealer. They have a bunch of bundled lamp sets (3 lamps in a set) for $50. That would put his lamp budget at around $350. I’m going to assume it’s a monthly cost as rain exists and it’s a safe bet that he doesn’t move them inside (they would be tripping over lamps all the time). That doesn’t include his extension cord, light bulb, or decorative ladder budget or any fees for filling the dumpster with lamps.

So not being Italian, nor Indian, I didn't have a great barometer for what was really just beyond the line of stereotype (obviously I can still see the stink of problematic characterizations from a mile away lol), but as a queer girl I was heavily bothered by the fact that once Luigi meets the one other gay man in this whole movie, who's also just flamboyant af, they immediately fall in love. Because apparently no other gay, bi, or pan men exist in this entire area so Luigi just hears his voice and is like OMG A GAY DUDE and that's it they're both kissing at that wedding in the final scene. Cool cool cool cool cool cool cool no doubt no doubt.

I guess I assumed that the overall best in a place all about old school stuff would be the one that's the most authentically Italian. Sidenote as I was telling a date yesterday about this shitstorm of a film while getting ice cream we looked up and realized that the small town pizza/ ice cream place was advertising an " Italian Stallion " pizza and I nearly lost it.

So did it bother anyone else that Jane Seymour was wearing a cocktail dress with a fancy necklace under her chef's whites? You're in a kitchen woman! Shit happens all the time (at least to my clumsy ass)!!! Your skirt part could get ruined! Someone could turn around in there and spill sauce all down your legs! Think of your poor legs!!!! I will admit there is a SMALL part of me that kind of lives for the ridiculous glamour of it all though. Like what's that? I'm just standing on my feet FOR HOURS in these killer heels looking sick as fuck. But mostly my practical side is weeping.

I agree. I felt at the beginning that the sight gag of this Luigi, who we assumed would be Italian, despite one of the grandfathers dismissing him as 'not Neapolitano', being Chinese-Canadian, would be the extent of it. It felt a bit cheap, but then the number of cultures who coexist in Toronto might explain that away. Then, the revelation that he came out to his Chinese father who kicked him out for being gay added a layer that might have been interesting. However, Luigi looks about the same age as Lei-o and whatshername. If he's saying he came out to his father, say, as a teenager, and then was disowned and kicked to the streets, then first of all, that's a matter for Child Protective Services. He says he walked the streets for days until he met the original Luigi who took him in. That can't have been any more than a decade ago. In that ten years, Luigi has dropped his entire culture and identity, and then somehow inherited the bar (was old Luigi on the brink of death?), took over, and has ingratiated himself seamlessly into this culture without so much as a glance from anyone. This man is successfully running a popular business while assuming a new identity in what Gigi reminded us is a notoriously homophobic new culture. For a side character, he might have the most needless backstory ever. And then, the tired trope of a character coming out and then immediately turning into a gay stereotype, including grabbing Anakin's ass only a minute after coming out to him, essentially cheapening a nice bro moment. Luigi is a puzzle.

Two points: 1. In reference to the rain scene it seems everyone's concern was for good reason. According to imdb Hayden Christensen badly sprained his ankle during the scene, causing him to miss a week of shooting. 2. The reason for Emma Robertson leaving was speculated. I felt the movie attempted to explain it as her "leaving a place that never changes and seeing the world". This sentiment is fine, except for the fact that she was clearly born in Toronto. As someone living in a city nearby, I assure you it is no small town. Toronto is one of the most diverse and most populated cities in Canada. All she needed to do was move a couple blocks, not go across an ocean.

This is a Paul-level tangent into my history, but I am Italian-American. Except we didn’t know it until I was in high school (my great grandfather came here from Italy in the early 1900s but he died young and we didn’t know about him, it’s a long story). So when we learned we were Italian my dad and his siblings would do a lot of Italian -American voices and jokes—mostly from the Sopranos and mob movies. And that is what the accents in this movie are. People with no actual connection to the culture. Taylor Anne made me feel really angry for Alyssa Milano. She is Italian too! She should’ve been the lead!

Immediately after watching Little Italy, I watched the Oscar nominated doc Black Sheep. It's free on vimeo and amazing and you should watch it. It's about a black man telling his struggle to fit in with white racists by pretending to be as white as possible, picking up their accent, etc. to have any friends. It made me think of Luigi in this movie who is clearly a person of color adopting the stereotypical persona of white locals to feel any kind of acceptance. While I recognize this is an everyday think for people of color, but the synergy of seeing these two movies back to back actually made me appreciate Luigi as a character (not how over the top flamboyant he is of course).

Quick question: is Andrea Martin making a joke at the end when she says that she is pregnant? I hope so, because she’s 72 YEARS OLD. I’m not an ob-gyn, but that doesn’t sound biologically possible. And if it is, it seems irresponsible.

The friend I watched with said her family is from literally just outside of Naples!!! I believe it's also her great grandmother who came to America and she said her mother definitely had a more authentic cultural Italian childhood so there were a lot of things that carried over to her (definitely food and shit which makes me so jealous). There were a lot of things she would be like, "That's fake as fuck," but like she said that about this whole feud and then immediately was like, "Except my grandmother hasn't talked to her brother in 40 years so..." She was really not happy about that feud though lol. Like she definitely pointed out how shitty and stereotypical the music was but for some reason the whole reason for the feud really bothered her and she thought that was the most offensive part, but she then told me later she might be carrying over some feelings from her personal life haha. The part we laughed about the most was the way Emma Roberts said any Italian words. We now text each other "STU PEE DO" regularly and it makes me very happy lol.

FUCKING THANK YOU!!!!!!! THIS WAS BOTHERING ME THE WHOLE MOVIE We get it! We ladies become shriveled hags the second we turn 25!!! But seriously FUCK this movie. Unless Phoebe (she will always be Phoebe from Charmed to me) got knocked up at 19 while Lay-O was 9 and her husband is like that other guy's unofficial little brother that that couple like... Took them in it something (I would actually watch this movie about a young teen couple with a baby living above a pizza place and finding this friendship and becoming adults)it's fucking sexist, agest bullshit.

So there's no way they would have been able to pull off the pot prank. I have never actually had marijuana anything because I'm allergic to smoke and as a giant nerd (until this year) would have been paranoid about getting in trouble with an edible. However because I have far less anxious, guilt ridden friends (which might be why they aren't so anxious) I now know that cooking with pot is fucking disgusting. I spent a night recently googling how to make weed butter without the very pungent smell for one. There are ways but cooking marijuana in an oven is going to release those smells. No matter how much oregano and other things that go on that pizza that place was going to REEK. Also it didn't look like they bothered to ground the marijuana up . Lay-O holds a huge clump. Frankly even if they had they should have been able to smell that there was something wrong with the oregano before cooking.

Years and years of listening to this podcast and something in one of these movies finally broke me to the point that I have to post about it. And it's just SUCH an awful reason. It's 7 minutes in, and Emma Roberts says that Jane Seymour is teaching her how to cook, "like, four Michelin stars cook". The Michelin guide tops out at 3 stars. And the line VO where she says it *almost* makes it sound like a joke, but IS IT A JOKE? I honestly can't tell if this was just an awful non-joke or they couldn't be arsed to know how the Michelin Guide works. In a movie centered around food. I had June's reaction to the release date of this movie.

Regarding the Marijuana prank, I'd like to understand what the rival shop owner did to get so many customers to show up? Up until that point, both shops were struggling for business and it's not like the owner promoted the prank... "Hey go to this resturant for there's free pot in the pizza." Some people could argue that a few people showed up and the rest was word of mouth. My counter to that, is that everyone in the restaurant reacts at the same time to the results of the pot. So that means everyone essentially showed up like a flash mob. So again, if one owner is able to get so many patrons to show up for this prank... why isn't he doing that same leg work for his own business and sell legit pizza?

I think her bullying of Billy at the end of the movie tends to color people's view of her actions throughout, and I think that's how the filmmakers designed it. For most of the movie you just get this subtle discomfort about Ratched and how she treats the patients, but no obvious or concrete mistreatment. It's not until the end that you're certain she's just trying to control people and not to help them. That said, I think we get our first big hint in how she handles McMurphy's request to watch the baseball game. First she offers up a vote, assuming that the other patients will never cross her. Then once McMurphy convinces the rest of the group to vote with him (unanimously!), Ratched expands the pool to include people who are not mentally capable of voting. Then once McMurphy gets that extra vote anyway, she declares the vote closed. Is she TECHNICALLY breaking any of her own rules there? No. But she's definitely shifting the ground whenever it looks like McMurphy is about to win. It's not a big leap to call this a metaphor for how authoritarian governments take hold (something Milos Forman was very familiar with). She's a villain from the start; it's just not obvious because she seems so outwardly "reasonable."

This might be a bit of my love for Jeremy Jordan, but I don't think he was that awful. I think he got caught up in his success for sure, (and obviously shouldn't have cheated, I'm not excusing that) but thought of it as him not knowing if this will ever happen again, being really young and taking all opportunities to capitalize on it. This isn't to say I feel like Anna Kendrick (I cannot remember either of their names) is to blame or he didn't do anything wrong (again, shouldn't have cheated), but I think they were young dreamers when they met. Its fun and easy to be a couple when you're both dreaming but not easy when one person's dreams come true and the other's get further away. In the beginning of his storyline, he mentions that he has a ten year plan to become a successful writer and then later says his first book gets bought with no re-writes. I can see how that would lead him into the ego trip that he get into, as well as how that fractures his relationship. It must be damn near impossible to sustain a relationship where one person is having people fawning over their 'talent' and the other is struggling to get any sort of recognition. I saw this a while ago, and have since watched La La Land for Musical Mondays, and its interesting how those stories parallel. I think that if they showed Anna and Jeremy years later, they'd have a similar dream sequence that Emma and Ryan have - what could have been if they'd been willing to work on their relationship rather than their dream careers. Also Cinco, I'm sorry about your foot, that sounds like a nightmare situation.