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Yea, this. My big question is actually, she seems pretty mediocre, right? I didn't quite get how she succeeded. She had characters and stuff?

I would agree about showing the first marriage. That there WAS a first marriage kind of leaves all her angst about not being pretty kind of toothless. Somebody thought she was pretty enough to marry so her worrying about it (and all her mother's kibitzing) didn't ring true. However I didn't know about the first marriage when I watched this so I bought into it all. Streisand is very good at playing neurotic. I also found out she played this role on Broadway several years before the movie came out. She did a good job in the movie at making each surprise and twist seem new to her.

As I said on Letterboxd, I kind of struggled with this one. It’s not that I couldn’t recognize it for being good, I get it, but I felt like the angle they chose wasn’t all that compelling. It’s a Musical about the first female comedian, but it gets reduced to a pretty generic love story. I would have much preferred to watch her struggles in the industry. Instead, we get one (admittedly awesome) performance, and then boom, she’s famous. From then on, the focus drifts from her career to her marriage. Hell, if that’s the case, then you might as well include her failed first marriage and made a statement as to why Arnstein was so compelling to her (other than “he’s pretty”) and how Showbiz can be detrimental to personal relationships. I mean, I didn’t hate it. It was well done. But it left me pretty cold.

Yeah, the movie begins with "You'll never make it. You're not pretty enough." And then after one performance at pretty suspect venue, she's suddenly a huge hit. I'm sure this is abbreviated for the movie, but to what end? Why even bother setting it up if you're not going to make it matter? I guess it's to give their love story more room to breathe, but...yawn?

Also, it seems kind of weird to have Barbra Streisand keep talking about how unatttactive she is. She's not as hot as Omar Sharif in this movie but who is? I came away from this movie not actually knowing any more about Fanny Brice than I did going into it. That's about as bad a thing as one can say about a biographical film. I get the feeling it's not even particularly accurate to her personality (but that's pure speculation). Honestly, all that takes a break seat to this just not being my type of movie. I can appreciate this. There were some great little touches like the woman married to a dentist having braces, or Fanny saying "give me six reasons why..." I like hearing the origins of a bunch of songs I didn't know all came from the same musical. But this goes in the "glad I saw it" more than I actually enjoyed it.

Like, one of her big things was this Baby Snooks character, which she kind of did for the press at the very end of the movie. I agree, I don't know a whole lot about her, but being a movie about a comedienne, I guess I expected it to have a lot more humor and a lot less melodrama. I mean, maybe that's not fair. It's not like the movie Chaplin is a laugh riot, or much better as a biopic, but at least it showed a little more of his craft.

I think that’s a good way articulate my issue with the film. It wasn’t a celebration of her life, it was a tabloid account of her marriage.

Are you sure you weren't watching The Iceman Cometh?

One other thing I am glad for is the divorce didn't go all War of the Roses and have a bunch of screaming and fighting. That may have happened in real life but doesn't make for "entertainment" on the screen when you're trying to celebrate someone's life. I agree about the musical taking a back seat. I was worried this was going to be another The Perils of Pauline, where we get two awesome songs & performances by Betty Hutton early on then literally not another song for the rest of the movie.

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I was listening to the NINJA III ep and they talked about how weird the cops are in that film. And it got me thinking, who are the worst cops in HDTGM movies? Because it seems to be a real recurring theme. is it Ham and Cheats with their comedy mustaches? Is it Action Jackson’s department that doesn’t appreciate that he is a hero? Drunken Michael Fassbender in the Snowman? I feel like there are a lot of options here. And I want to discuss. Let’s say something bad happens to your family, who do you DEFINITELY NOT want to be assigned to the case?

First time, long time. https://soundcloud.com/bencentra/cbb-plugs-theme-trust

If you've gothic, font it.

Also free on Amazon with ads.

If anyone wants a free option (i.e., with ads), Funny Girl is also on the Pluto TV app

I’m trying to come up with a list of “summer” movies, and I wondered if anyone had any suggestions. I’m not really looking for dramas, mostly comedies and action movies. They don’t necessarily have to happen during the summer, but I’d like a summer feel. Some examples: Summer Rental, Summer School, Club Paradise. Like, would Caddy Shack be one? Maybe Point Break? Anyway, any suggestions would be appreciated

Hot date?

If nothing else, this episode reminded me to pick up a big bottle of V8 when I was at the store today.

This is an unsubstantiated claim but supposedly someone asked about it at a live show. Paul supposedly said his current working relationship with Don Cheadle is why it hasn't been released. I think we should respect the decision if this is the reason since I don't want this show to directly impact any of the host's success.

Maybe if we’re vocal enough, they’ll eventually post the Swordfish episode. It worked for the Snyder cut. #ReleasetheSwordfishepisode

Taped in January you say??? That's nothing! They did a show for Swordfish that they taped a couple years ago that still hasn't come out, with the belief now that it may never get released, thus ending up in the lost episode hole along with The Smurfs and for a time Green Lantern.

V8 should definitely have a product placement deal with The Fast & Furious franchise. It’s all about family! And what’s better for a growing family than 2 full servings of vegetables in every can. Vin would make sure the deal specified he can’t lose to a can of V8 in a fight. I can totally see it now: In the climatic scene Dom is thrown from his car and comes to rest face down against a wall. His crew run to him and look in stunned dismay at his white cotton beater soaked in blood, but just when all is lost, Dom rolls over and holds up a crushed can of V8 with a mischievous smile and says “I ain’t rebuilding this one.” Cut to rooftop gathering. The whole family raise cans of V8 high and in harmony yell, “Family!” THE END Directed By: Tall John Scheer

All the promotion, episode title, etc. should be "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen," but in the actual episode they make ZERO mention of the film, and the movie they will actually be discussing is 'Queen of the Damned.'

I'd give it a bad review, but I believe the word "give" is anathema to my Randian beliefs. I will say this: the invisible hand of the free market gives this movie a thumbs down.

Yeah, word has it it's pretty insanely bad and with a recent sequel, hypocritical. Didn't the free market decide that they didn't want to watch?