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Director/writer/performer Jordan Rubin (Critters: A New Binge) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss the 1986 British American adventure comedy Shanghai Surprise starring Sean Penn and Madonna. They talk about George Harrison’s involvement with the movie, loud Jazz, and what exactly is a Shanghai Surprise. This episode is brought to you by Leesa (www.leesa.com/BONKERScode: BONKERS), Squarespace (www.squarespace.com/BONKERScode: BONKERS), OpenFit, and MedMen. Subscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: http://www.earwolf.com/show/unspooled/ Check out our new website over at www.hdtgminfo.com! Check out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepubli…wdidthisgetmade Where to Find Jason, June & Paul: @PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter @Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on Twitter Jason is still not on Twitter

Since I am a baseball fan, I noticed he gripped the ball to throw a knuckleball and wondered why he was throwing a pitch that is slow when presumably he should impress Joe Go with his fastball.

I live in a town covered in train tracks and even after all these years in still surprised sometimes late at night to hear one. I wonder if I left for long enough on a vacation if I would miss them while I sleep? I know I can't sleep without a fan or the a/c blasting. Usually both in the summer because I'm always hot and I just don't sleep right now without the hum.

I don't necessarily think of Buffalo Bill as being trans anymore than I think of Francis Dolarhyde in Red Dragon as a (dragon) furry. On the surface, yes, their mental illness looks like a trans person or a furry but I don't think that's what they are. I get why a trans person or even a trans ally would have a problem with Buffalo Bill. The complaints are absolutely fair and valid. I'm not a psychologist and not even an armchair expert on any of this stuff. So, I can't make any kind of diagnosis or explain the difference on a psychiatric level. But I guess I'd say it's similar to saying Ocean's 11 is about a kleptomaniac or Norman Bates has an Oedipus complex.

I’m telling you, it’s the best! It’s like, “Next stop, Slumbertown!” ::woot woot::

There’s also a line where Clarice is told that Bill was rejected for sexual reassignment based on his psychological tests. I think this is one of those lines that one reviewer was criticizing, but it did go a long way to alleviate some of my concerns. Essentially, the movie wasn’t saying, “He’s crazy because he wants to be transitioned,” but rather “He wasn’t transitioned because he was so crazy.” It might seem like a bit of semantics, but I think there’s a world of difference between saying “here’s a psychotic, trans person” and “here’s a psychotic person - who happens to be trans.” Granted, I am totally speaking from a place of cisgendered, male privilege and this doesn’t really get into the issue of representation at all. It definitely matters if the only time trans people even show up in a movie is to play either a psychopath or a punchline. I think this has (maybe?) gotten a little better, but excluding maybe The World According to Garp, I think this was especially true of the time.

I play a train sound sometimes to put my kids to sleep

This movie was on cable the weekend it was announced, what is going on people?!!!

I wasn't sure if I was going to vote for this one, but a re-watch confirmed it. They touched on this in the podcast episode, but I do think Silence of the Lambs was the precursor and original inspiration for all of the "true crime" and serial-killer movies that happened in the 90s and beyond. The entire visual style of The X-Files seems lifted from this movie, something I hadn't really understood before (though I certainly could tell that Agent Scully's first-season hairstyle was inspired by Clarice Starling). The stuff with the trans/cross-dressing serial killer is still a bit problematic, but honestly I expected that to play worse than it did. I noted that they do have Clarice and Hannibal discuss Buffalo Bill's particular psychology and state outright that real transsexuals tend to be non-violent and that Bill is something else. So it's more sensitive than you might think, if you are paying attention to the details.

The Steamles of Sodor sounds down right terrifying as a brand. Like it sounds like Sauron's warrior train army from hell. Frankly I personally find the current Thomas the Tank Engine face to be terrifying so that might just be me projecting. It's not Paw Patrol though and for that I am grateful. My best friend's toddler had three obsessions: real trains, Daniel Tiger, and Paw Patrol. The makers of Paw Patrol made a satanic pact of some kind I'm sure if it.

Regarding White Noise, instead of birds, which I don’t have any particular objections to, if Paul’s son is into Thomas the Tank Engine, YouTube has a lot of great ASMR train sounds. For my son, I usually pick “train in the rain.” There are tons of videos. They generally have a nice rhythmic quality with the pleasant hush of the rain. It also allows your son to imagine riding on one of the Steamies of Sodor as he drifts off to sleep. I’ve been putting it on for my eldest for years, and he’s always really enjoyed it.

A bowel movement? In THIS economy?

If you give a mouse a cookie and you give a moose a muffin, can you give my dog a job? He’s very qualified!

There's a luncheon in the dungeon. B Y O B and I'll bring the truncheon.

Rudy-Tooty, Fresh and Fruity, in my Mouth and out my Booty

Yeah the ending involving Cap reminds me of the Denzel Washington film Deja Vu, wherein it's revealed over the course of the movie he's time traveled at least three times in order to prevent a terrorist attack from happening, he just doesn't realize it because his double is out of sight from him. This logic would work for Endgame in that Cap could be married to Peggy while still be unfrozen to lead the Avengers in the 2010s, but it doesn't explain what then happened to her entire history with her family unless in Winter Soldier was Old Cap hiding from Young Cap, or the fact that the biggest war hero of WWII all of a sudden was just hanging out after the war was over, I'm assuming someone in SHIELD like Coulson would have wondered how Cap could be unfrozen but also have been living in America from after the war until present time. In the end it's still not fully sitting well with the attempt at making rules while somewhat abiding by old rules and

Yeah, the hipster movie fan opinion for some time has been, "Brian Cox's subtle intellectual Lecter was so much better than Hopkins' over-the-top performance." I think both interpretations are valid and work for the movie they're in. IMO, a lot of people incorrectly interpret "subtle" acting as automatically "better" acting. Not so.

Y'all know I was just kidding about the guests right? Just ask random ones since we don't really know who the guest will be. If someone can make a wise-crack on social media and inspire the 11 hour episode we can bring back the popcorn machine, at least for one ep: "Have you ever had to use a laundromat like a regular person? How does it work?" "Is Graham Norton a cookie or a cracker?" "What's the normalest thing to ever happen to you off-set in a completely normal setting with non-famous people?" "Do you wish that crafty was really arts and crafty instead so you could construct your own food animals before eating them?"

I believe the guests will be M. Ryan, R. Gere, M. Pfeiffer, and Rupert Murdoch.

Michelle, that scene in the batman movie where the cats get all on you and then make you become the cat woman creeps me out to this day because of the shot of the one that licks you on the mouth. Did you know how scratchy cat tounges were before you agreed to do that?

511 minutes too short

That’s a damned impressive catch, Eagle Eye...

I was confused as to why Mary Lou Maloney was in the "W" section of the yearbook.