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If the only place to realistically get the movie without spending $25 is going to pornhub, that's a really disappointing thing for the show to do to the audience. Even if the movie isn't porn, making the audience go to a porn site (understanding we don't need to watch the movie but ideally it's an option) to see it is definitely not cool. A lot of people don't want to see the adds on the side or support an industry that treats women as badly as the porn industry does. The show has posted links to stream the very hard to find movies like Rad or A Night In Heaven. Hopefully they will do that as it gets closer to the show date.

Okay, two things: 1. Are we not going to talk about Helen Mirren's full hair, makeup, and jewelry? Is she getting the Al Capone treatment in there? 2. We've established that Hattie injected the virus in capsules into her hand. The capsules will dissolve after the longest 72 hours ever and then.. end of humanity. When they plan what to do if they can't extract the virus in time, why does she have to die and burn her body? Why not just amputate her hand?! Is that a fate worse than death? Why is this not an option?

Okay I believe it is time for the moments in movies when I get most frustrated... That's right it's time for This Week in Feminism. I was delighted to hear an audience member mention things that I also wanted to mention, because one of my first points was, "Where are the fucking women?" But the response of the crew didn't satisfy me and here's why - Yes, Hattie is a badass through and through. She was an operative for MI6 and went head to head with Luke Hobbs without even blinking an eye. She sacrificed herself so that Idris Elba wouldn't get the virus, and at the end of the day it was her plan that got the blood machine so that she could ultimately live. Definitely a badass. However, that doesn't actually answer the question. Hattie is one woman. To answer the question, "Where are the women?" with, "Well Hattie is a badass," implies that multiple women can't just be in scenes talking to each other because we already have the one woman being a badass and that's good enough right? They also mentioned the team of vigilante women lead by Eiza Gonzalez in Russia, but here's my problem with them - Only Eiza has any lines. There are 4 other women in this group and their only purpose for this movie is to look sexy in lingerie and be intimidating. That's not really showing any other badass women considering we never actually got to see them in action. The marketing for this movie completely hyped up Eiza's role and it really disappointed me that she didn't have anything better to do for a longer portion of the movie. Michelle Rodriguez had posted after F8 that if this franchise didn't step up it's representation of women then she would leave the series, and I think with this movie they took one tiny baby step in the right direction. Now I know this movie is a spin-off and has nothing to do with the set of movies that Michelle was actually talking about because she's in the camp of "fuck Hobbs & Shaw" but it's still part of the series none the less. With Hattie being a total badass and being central to the plot instead of a side character I do think that they want women to be part of the story, but in my opinion, even though Hattie is a total badass, she's just a plot point she's not actually involved in her own story a la Natalie Portman in Thor: The Dark World. If you took that virus out of Hattie's blood she no longer becomes relevant to this story, and it still all resolves around Hobbs & Shaw more than likely doing the bulk of the work to get the virus away from Eteon. She's kidnapped twice to be rescued by the two men, and in the final climax fight of the whole movie she's regulated to sitting in the rain with a gun pointed at her head. To me, this isn't badass empowering writing. This is lazy "feminism" that is stuck in the early 2000s. But honestly the thing that frustrated me the most is that this didn't even pass The Bechdel Test. It would've been so fucking easy for them to do. They had multiple named women who were literally standing in the same room together, but never once do any of them address each other, instead they talk to the men about things the other woman brought up instead. The female guard with Helen Mirren doesn't have a name - Fail Hattie is the only woman on her entire team - Fail Eiza is the only named and speaking woman on her team - Fail Hobb's daughter never speaks to the woman she is staying with - Fail Hattie and Eiza stand face to face and only talk to Hobbs & Shaw - Fail Hobbs's mother doesn't have a name (she is named on IMDB but they never once say it in the movie) - Fail There are no lines between Helen Mirren and Hattie at the end of the movie - Fail It's the simplest of things that in 2019 should literally be the bare minimum for writing female characters. I'm not asking for the entire story to be changed, because honestly the overarching thing doesn't bother me despite poking holes in the "baddassery" of it. But to not have two women even speak to each other when they're literally standing face to face discussing ultimate plans for how to get a blood machine is absolutely ridiculous. Literally I just want women to be able to talk to each other about things not related to men. That would be grand.

Because Netflix for some reason decided to recommend this movie to me based on The Double, I decided to watch the trailer. I immediately decided that this would be perfect for HDTGM. It's a Tony Danza vehicle about a Dad coming to grips with his teenage daughter's burgeoning sexuality and it has a whopping 11% on Rotten tomatoes. This movie is so atrocious that Gene Siskel apparently said he wanted to quit his job as a movie critic because he had to watch it.

If you were here in Halifax at the public library where my wife works, someone watching Fateful Findings on Pornhub would not be the worst thing she sees in any given shift.

New theory! The Eteon voice is the mother cause she's pissed as fuck that he took her daughter away. Or she's just actually always been a villain and that is why he took the daughter away.

I second all of this. Welcome back

I work in the public school system, so it would be frowned upon, to say the least. Also, as a public servant, while I am not overly conservative on how I spend my money (I did see Hobbs & Shaw in 4DX, after all, which cost almost $25), I just don’t want to use my hard-earned money to support Fateful Findings, which I never would have watched ever, if HDTGM wasn’t coming to Seattle (which, again, I am very excited about). My love of bad movies has limits. i also don’t want to get into the ethical debate of Pornhub because that’s just a massively complex issue, as theworstbuddhist pointed out in his previous post. I will say though, as a Seattle native who has friends who work at Amazon (and as someone who realizes that cities are meant to change)...fuck Amazon and fuck Jeff Bezos for what he’s done to this city. Do I think change is bad? No. Do I think people who work for Amazon are bad? Of course not. Do I think Amazon’s change is bad for Seattle? Yes. Congrats to New York for keeping them out. Sorry for my soapbox rant. Have a good day, all!

I hear you and I don't disagree. But I don't exactly agree either, because you're making a pretty sweeping generalization there. There is such a thing as ethical porn just as there are other forms of ethical sex work with perfectly happy people doing it (pardon the pun) and getting paid. So at the risk of reopening a toxic circular discussion that people have stormed off in a huff over before, this is one of those calculations that people need to make for themselves. A poster asked how to find the movie, and they have been given an option. It's not an ideal option, not a nice neat mainstream way to see a film, but then it's not a nice neat mainstream film either. IMO it's more ethically defensible to point people to Pornhub than, say, Amazon, but again, ymmv. Edited to add: I just want to emphasize that I do agree with the basic sentiment that it would be nice, especially in the case of an episode where it's a tour and people have had to buy tickets and get babysitters and such, to make sure the film is widely available. But the thing is, the film IS easily available - for $25. For someone already going to the show and paying for that and transport and whatever else, I don't think the extra $25 is that much of a hardship. So if the ask is really "how can I see this movie for free on a website that I am comfortable going to?" I don't think that is really HDGTM's problem, nor ours. All we can do is offer the info that we find and let people make their own choices.

If you use private browsing I can't imagine that pornhub would be an issue. Hang on, I'll try it right now and see if it does anything sketchy re popups... Seems fine to me. It did pop up a window underneath the main window, and you'll probably want to full-screen the movie once it gets rolling. Your mileage may vary, as they say. I'd post the direct link here but I'm guessing the nice folks at Earwolf would frown on that. So to sum up: 1) open a private browsing window 2) go to Pornhub 3) search for Fateful Findings 4) profit! Edited to add: probably best not to do this on a work computer or public computer, like at a library.

Kathmandu, but Birdman don’t.

I just HAVE to quote a couple of choice lines of dialogue. “Killing with gloves on would be like fucking with a rubber.” “EXHIBIT A: YOUR SKIN UNDERNEATH MY NAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

A corn nut, a sentient fart, and a spoon named Walter walk into a bar. The bartender says “What is this? Some kind of catchphrase?”

Will just torched Scharpling

Hey! I'm the one that does the maps around here! This is great and awesome but we have to look at the bigger picture here. Vanessa Kirby has 72 hours from initial injection of the virus, correct? So outside the events of the movie and things like the time taken to let the Rock know, there is a lot of travel going on. First, the Rock is in LA and gets the info and flies to London. Next from London the squad flies to Moscow. From Moscow they fly once more to the Ukraine to infiltrate the Eteon Factory and then they fly to Samoa. So ignoring the times in the movie, how much of that 72 hours is just spent in transit? From LA to London, non-stop commercial, the fastest time is 10 hours 15 minutes From London to Moscow, non-stop commercial, the fastest time is 3 hours 45 minutes From Moscow to the Ukraine, as we don't know the actually destination within the Ukraine the average non-stop commercial flight times for the country is approximately 2 hours From the Ukraine to Samoa, we have Polly Darton's wonderfully researched 36 hours, but seeing as we know this is a chartered flight we can assume it's flying as direct as possible so no doubling back on itself. If you combine just flight times alone flying from the Ukraine to India, India to Hong Kong, Hong Kong to Fiji, Fiji to Samoa in flight time along is 25 hours and 10 minutes. This all in total adds up to a grand total of 41 hours and 10 minutes of just flying! Now we could assume The Rock is flying with the government on a private jet from LA and the flight they took from Moscow to the Ukraine was also seemingly a direct non-commercial affair. This will shave off some time but we are still looking at probably a minimum of 40 hours of flight time in the entire movie. To get into pure hypothetical territory here and say they spend 12 hours (we do know it's at least half a day) with the Rock's family in Samoa plus flight time. That's 41 plus 12 plus the 2 hour and 16 minute run time of the movie that give us a total of 55 hours about. That gives them 17 hours for non-on-screen action. If Ryan Reynolds is immediately informed of the virus, immediately tells the Rock the Rock goes straight to London and from that point everything happens in the quickest most efficient way it *might* actually be plausible. Strong emphasis on the might.

So, I may be mis-remembering this, but I seem to recall a line where, possibly during the climactic beat ‘em up scene, Deckard blames Brixton for killing Owen, or getting him killed. If so, that kinda sucks. I mean Jason Statham’s entry point into this franchise—his character’s little brother, Owen—essentially gets erased out of existence with a throwaway line of dialog. R.I.P. Owen Shaw, I guess... As much as I enjoyed the “chest math” that went into the scene where Hobbs and Shaw(s) escape in Deckard’s McClaren, I found it much more distressing that Hattie had to sit sandwiched between these two hulks in the cockpit of this fairly tight-quarters sports car. I’m typing this (slowly) on my iPad so I don’t even know how to include pictures of the interior of a McLaren 720c with this thing, but Google it and tell me if you think The Rock alone could fit comfortably inside one. Tall mentions Brixton’s Weyland Corp. tattoo, and I thought I saw it too when watching this movie. I agree with Tall that this film now exists inside a shared universe with the Alien franchise, but... I want to take this one step further and posit the theory that the producers of this film, in a methodical hyper-meta gambit, are gradually trying to systematically dissolve the walls between every film franchise in the world so that the F&F franchise can exist in pretty much any and every film franchise it wants to. I know this sounds slim, but hear me out: we have that Weyland Corporation tattoo, Deckard’s mention of using a Mini for an Italian Job, “Black Superman” (and the cut line about Brixton being the “black James Bond”), Ryan Reynold’s essentially playing Deadpool, Han is the same character from Better Luck Tomorrow, etc. Add to this... No, wait. I just watched Under the Silver Lake last night, and that film apparently really rubbed off on me. Sorry. Sorry. Moving on... Is Hobb’s daughter’s mother dead and was this already mentioned in a previous F&F film? Who took care of Hobb’s daughter when Hobb’s went out on missions/got imprisoned/beat asses like Cherokee drums in the previous films if he’s estranged from his extended family? I’m convinced that Brixton’s motorcycle is the love child of Bumblebee and KITT from Knight Rider. It’s a place I go to now. As much fun as this movie was, can we all just admit that nano-viruses are to action/spy movies what sky beams are to superhero movies? My biggest takeaway from this movie? That the application (or lack thereof) of make up is very important.

I believe that was a reference to Vanessa Kirby asking the guy who was supposed to watch her while the Rock was on the phone if he was new? I have the Fenty one because apparently I love to give money to Rihanna. It's good but I have very watery eyes my wing doesn't stay in place (since that is where I tear, around the corners). Otherwise fine. ... and I really wanted to see them together.

Some random observations: -Idris Elba can smash through walls ‘n stuff cuz he’s a cyborg, but Vin Diesel can smash through a concrete wall (see Fast Five) because...? -In the beginning, AFTER Idris Elba kills a whole platoon of soldiers, his three henchmen roll up on their motorcycles and I thought they were gonna be in trouble for being late. -RULE OF THUMB: If you’re chasing someone in a car and you’re on a motorcycle, you WILL crash and fly off that thing. I learned that as kid in Never Say Never Again. (Conversely, if you’re ON a motorcycle and being chased, you will evade capture through an alleyway.) TFATF and Fast Five both reinforce this trope. -The villain’s plot (make half the world bionic, genocide everyone else) seems like it’s half Thanos, half The Borg. -The running gag about going on three reminds me of a similar runner in Lethal Weapon 2. I guess take whatever you want from those movies. Nobody should watch Mel Gibson movies anymore. They belong to the alt-right now. -Whenever they touched on the recurring theme of Family, I could hear Vinnie Deez saying “Fam-Uh-Wee” -This marks the first F&F movie where the comic relief mostly didn’t make me want to kill my self. -I didn’t need any of those cameos besides Helen Mirren and Rob Delaney. Why is Deadpool here? -As set up in Fast Five, nitrous can make your car not only go faster but much heavier so it can pull stuff like vaults and choppers. -Momma Shaw’s prison jewelry must’ve cost a fortune in cigarettes. -I giggled when, after battling shirtless, Hobbs quickly puts on a shirt as he’s diving into the back of the pickup (because continuity is a priority even though it was nighttime three minutes ago). Guess he didn’t want to get chilly chasing choppers. * *I was having some fun with alliteration there

I'm gonna say it's almost certainly American Samoa, given that The Rock's grandfather was from there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Maivia

Steven Adams and Momoa are basically twins

This was filmed at Paisley Park, Prince's estate. Funny enough, that was not highlighted during the VIP tour I took this summer.

At the risk of upsetting Tyrese Gibson, I wouldn't mind if they sacked off the rest of the Fast/Furious movies, and just stuck with Hobbs & Shaw. I'd watch 2 hours of The Rock and Jason Statham trying to play FIFA and talking shit to each other.

So this movie was very upsetting to me. No other movie has given me so much anxiety. It was 90+ minutes of someone just gleefully destroying other people's things and lives. fun I personally believe this is similar to a Monsters Inc situation or more closely the Disney channel movie Don't Look Under The Bed scenario. So I do think Fred is his own being. He even mentioned being locked up and unable to move on. I can understand why Fred goes after the mom. She was seen as the advisory of Elizabeth's childhood, and to an extent is still. But Carrie Fisher? She was an innocent! And honestly Fred doesn't help Elizabeth, he actively hurts her. He physically hurts her multiple times and puts her in danger. Not only does her hurt her physically but in her relationships as well. He endangers her friendship with Carrie Fisher and by sinking the condo boat takes away the place she was staying so she has to go back home. At her date with Mickey( though I think he's a creep.) he tries to ruin that even though he hates Charles. He doesn't want her to move on with him because he finds him "girly". He should be encouraging her to get back out there and forget Charles. He then pretends to be the violinist even after Elizabeth has begged him to leave her alone. This causes her to break down and she assaults the violinist causing her to be detained by the mall cops and be put on medication. Drop Dead Fred has no real regard for her true happiness, he only cares for how he can have his sadistic twisted fun. He actively endangers her happiness and causes her greater distress. Having never seen this movie I thought he would be less about reveling in violence and more of a gleefully chaotic Loki esq archetype who would help her get in touch with her inner child and pull pranks on like a tough boss, her shit ex and her overbearing mother that kind of thing. Not drive her to the brink of madness.

In the words of Clay Davis, sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit.